Ryan, What was your goal when you made the post this excerpt is taken from?
"I am looking for information on what techniques, flies, lines, leaders, and of course, locations to chase these fish. I would assume, having had a few years of saltwater fly fishing experience, that the fishing is somewhat dependent on the tides. What are the best tides to fish, the waxing tide, waning tide, or dead tide? I have heard to look for locations that have a river flowing into a beach, can anyone suggest some locations near Redmond? The reason I am interested in this is I'm looking for a bit of fishing to do before and/or after work, since I work night-shift and have the days off." Seems to me your looking for help with location, perhaps a secret spot if someone is foolish enough to spill one.............I'm sure there are lots of maps and dead end roads to follow in the Redmond area. Why would you ever post such a question on the internet? I guess it all depends on who's ox is being gored....... I'm all for secret spots, but I'm opposed to people making arguments that are inconsistant with their actions. Ross > Mike, > > I must, unfortunately, disagree with you. In my opinion, there are > questions that should be asked, and there are questions that shouldn't be > asked. When I joined this mailing list, I was under the impression that > there was a gentleman's pact not to give away secret spots. > > Let's do a little role-play for a minute, shall we? > Say you had a beautiful little creek in the desert that had some nice fish > in it, and was just about unknown except to a few. Every time you went > there, you had it to yourself, and that was a good thing, because such small > creeks cannot take a lot of pressure. Now let's say that someone posts > something about it on the Internet, and the next time you go out there, you > find six other "gentlemen" on your creek, after having driven a large amount > of miles. On such a small creek, you may not be able to fish at all with > that many people there. Perhaps this has never happened to you. If you > want to know how it feels, ask Kent Lufkin, I seem to remember something > about a newspaper article and a lake. > > Would you sing the same tune if someone were to go and post the GPS > coordinates of your favorite little hidden lake, or your favorite steelhead > pool, where you used to be able to go and fish all day without seeing > someone? Where the fish were large, and after that day, the fishing slowly > got worse? > > Secret spots have been around for as long as fishing have been around, my > father had them, my grandfather had them, and I hope one day my sons have > them. I've spent six months finding this spot, searching through watershed > maps, aerial photography, topographic maps, talking to people, driving down > dead end roads, hiking miles through the desert... > > So yes, I as a list member have a problem with people asking questions, and > specifically with people posting answers about certain creeks, because to > some of us, they are "secrets". I CARE for the pertinence of certain > questions, because it affects me. That IS my business. > > In addition, I don't believe that Tom's question was a "pertinent fly > fishing question". Trying to get free information about secret desert > creeks is not a pertinent fly fishing question. Tom, nothing against you > personally, it's just that in my opinion, some spots, in particular > sensitive ones, have to be earned. I don't believe such spots should be > given out to everyone, partly because of the sensitivity of such places, and > by posting it on the Internet, you are giving it out to everyone. Yes, > everyone on the WaFF mailing list, and anyone who cares to view the archive > on the web page. > > Just my 2 cents. > > Ryan Davey > MSN GSC > > Calling Fly Fishing a hobby is like calling Brain Surgery a job. > - Paul Schullery > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Santangelo > Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 12:10 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: Where is Rattlesnake Creek? or de facto censorship > > Tom, > > It is a shame that you, and probably others, don't ask pertinent fly fishing > questions because of admonishment by others on the list. There is only one > participate on this list that can admonish or censor anybody as far as that > is concerned. That is the list owner. > > Others may not care for the pertinence of a question, but that isn't their > business. On second thought, they aren't afraid of your asking the > question. They are afraid of somebody answering it. But, if someone wants > to answer, that is their business as well. > > This list has gone thru this "fear of asking" tactic before. It seems to > have worked. Washington Fly Fishing.com is experiencing now. I don't > believe it should be so. > > Mike Santangelo > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of T. Lang > Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 1:10 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: Where is Rattlesnake Creek? > > Interesting.... > > I have some ideas, but I don't want to give anything away.... As was pointed > > out to me the last time I asked about Rattlesnake I was admonished to do my > own exploring and not to expect to be given any easy information. I also > don't want to expose any "secret" fishing spots since un-pressured water is > hard to find. I will say, however, that my Streams Map of Washington lists > about 6 Rattlesnake Creeks, and at least one of them could be a likely > suspect.... provided the Creek of Lore really is named Rattlesnake. > There's some other suspects, too. BTW, Ryan, what does "ROTFL" mean? > > Thanks, Tom > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus > > >
