Now I think that it is a bull and here is why.

I started fly fishing back east and I have caught a lot of brook trout in NY
and Pennsylvania. All of the ones that I caught there generally had a darker
olive body with worm tracks Although most descriptions of brook trout don't
say so, they tend to have a little gray color on their gums and around their
mouths and throats.

The eastern brook trout that I have caught have always looked like these
http://students.washington.edu/manu19b/UWbrooktrout.html

The photos show a spawning male (in full color) and females with a small
parr in the center photo. The degree of spots is quite high and the green is
a dark green.

Here is a description on bull trout that I took off a web site: 

Bull Trout have a white leading edge on their fins and small, pale yellow to
crimson spots against a darker background of olive green to brown on the
back fading to white on the belly. Their tail is slightly forked and the
dorsal fin lacks spots. 

This site show a large bull
http://www.pma.edmonton.ab.ca/natural/fishes/_trout.htm

This site has a small picture of a parr down toward the bottom
http://wfrc.usgs.gov/research/fish%20behavior/STMaule7.htm

Its coloration is quite different than the traditional brook trout. The one
I caught was olive in color and only had a few spots (relatively speaking).
I did a google search on bull trout in Oregon and found a map that shows the
known range includes the river I fished.

So I am going to go out on a limb and stick with "Bull trout". If a
fisheries biologist on the web site contacts me, I will tell him where I
caught the fish so that he can verify the known range or fall of his chair
laughing.

Andy

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Excellent photos Andy!  Particularly like the one of the Catlow Basin
Redband, nice work.

As far as the bull trout goes, I believe the specimen that you
photographed is a brook trout.  Here are the three main identifying
features that your specimen exhibits that lead me to believe so:

1) The anal and caudal fins of a bull trout have only white anterior
borders, while the brook trout have both black and white anterior
borders.  Your specimen appears to exhibit both black and white anterior
borders.

2) It's difficult to tell from the photo, but it appears your speciment
exhibits vermiculation along the dorsal surface and along the dorsal
fins.

3) Bull trout have spotless fins, and it appears that the dorsal of your
specimen has some spotting or vemiculation.

That being said, from my personal experience, it can be very difficult
to differentiate in the field the difference between a bull trout and a
brook trout.  I've made the mistake a number of times myself.
Particularly in situations where there are bull trout/brook trout
hybrids.  The single most identifying characteristic is the
vermiculation.  Bob Behnke's book entitled "Trout and Salmon of North
America" is the single most definitive text on the subject, and has some
excellent descriptions, information, and drawings so life-like they look
real.  It's my most valued book!  Thanks for sharing the photos!  I'm
jealous of your trip!

Ryan Davey
www.worldanglr.com
 
Calling Fly Fishing a hobby is like calling Brain Surgery a job. 
- Paul Schullery

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I tried to post some photos of the SE Oregon trip that I reported to
everyone on. It doesn't seem to have worked. I probably didn't do it
right.

Anyway, you can go to http://www.nwlink.com/~stouppe/ to see them.

Andy S. (Not so technically savvy)

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