I can't accurately guess the percentage of immigrant poachers to non-imigrant
poachers.  Nor am I able to determine if immigrants are to blame for most
murders in Grant Co.  I'm willing to bet, however,  that more U.S. citizens
commit crimes than aliens commit.   I do know that most immigrants are here
to work.  Moreover, I speak to a ton of immigrants in Grant Co., as I enjoy
practiciing my Spanish and meeting people from Latin America.  Most
experiences I have had have been very positive.  One group of immigrant
workers offered me the meat and tortillas they were cooking before eating it
themselves.   By the way, a lot of these immigrants have work Visas.  Why do
we let migrant workers into this country?  At least partly, I believe, for
the cheap labor that they provide which bolsters our economy significantly.


If you  look back on the last two hundred years of U.S. history, you'll see a
direct correlation between hard economic times and anger towards immigrants.
Irish, Italian, and Jewish immigrants, for example, were all targets of
attacks (physical and verbal) during earlier historic eras.  

All that aside, the bottom line is that our state is operating on too little
money.  Yes, providing law enforcement becomes a lesser priority to education
and law enforcement of towns and cities during tough times.  But, think of
the money we would make on tourism, if we had anything like the quality lakes
that B.C. has.  The lakes are there.  Many are off the main roads. 

I could say much more, but i'll rest it for now.  

James 





-----Original Message-----
From:   Bob Birkner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent:   Sun 11/16/2003 12:40 PM
To:     [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc:     
Subject:        Re: Nunnally[Scanned]

There is a volunteer program in Washington. I think it's called "Eyes in the
Woods".
There were some of these volunteers at a Commission hearing in Longview a
couple of years ago. They were primarily assisting with hunting activities.
It seemed to be dependent on the WDFW person in charge of an area as to
whether they used volunteers.
-Bob
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: ffishnfly chatterton 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2003 11:57 AM
  Subject: Re: Nunnally


  I had forgotten about the Okanagan Deputy Sheriff. Sorry about that. My
point in saying that maybe they could be given a limited commission is that
anyone doing this would be trained in the basics of how to handle situations
they might encounter, including being both armed, and trained in the use of
them. On several occassions when I have pointed out to people that they were
fishing illegally in this lake stream, all it took to get their attention was
to casually show that I was armed.  I am well trained in the use of arms from
military training, and thus far have never had to resort to drawing a weapon.
I do have a concealed weapons permit, or concealed carry permit as it is now
called. Yes the chance is there that the person being confronted will have
also have a weapon, but that is the chance you take. You also have the choice
of not getting involved.  Discrection is sometimes the best part of valor. As
to compensation, again, I think there are enough people who love the outdoors
enough that this could be accomplished through volunteers.  A state I
previously lived in augmented it's wildlife enforcement agents thru
volunteers, with the only compensation being a uniform provided, and annual
training to keep one up on the latest policing methods. Everything else was
done at your own expense and on your own time, with a certain amount of hours
required each month. It worked very well. 

  Roger
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: steblina 
    To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
    Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2003 8:47 AM
    Subject: RE: Nunnally




      Roger, it is actually three law enforcement officers in about three
years.  A Okanogan County Deputy Sheriff was also killed by an illegal a few
years ago.  As I noted earlier...Grant County has 15 or more unsolved
murders.   These are mostly illegals killing other illegals, but it gives you
an idea of how cheap life is to these folks.  These are the folks that your
dealing with in many cases out in the basin.  

      Volunteers are a good idea where the law abiding public is the primary
user.  Campground volunteers are not set up to deal with violent or criminal
behavior.  Giving them a "limited commission" to give out tickets can get one
of them killed.  Anybody in uniform or with the ability to give a ticket is A
LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER to these folks.  

      While I appreciate your friends taking turns to watch the vehicles I
think its only a matter of time until a fisherman gets killed out in the
basin.  These situations can get out of hand in a hurry and unless your
trained in law enforcement it is highly likely that you'll end up on the
short end. 

      While you might not blame Locke....I blame that whole Democrat crowd is
1987 that killed the immigration bill that year.  That was the last chance to
control illegals flooding into the country.  We have paid a hell of a price
for that decision in eastern Washington.

      Vladimir


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