We could only hope for such in WA. Considering the heaping trash piles that 
litter the rusted car strewn yards of the Oly Pen and rural P Sound, I'm not 
sure the "culture" has the pride in place to make such a stand. 


Quoting redshedflyshop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Howdy Bob, I don't believe rural Montana is poorly policed. It is just not
> always done by someone with a badge. I think that is the way it should be. If
> you have to wait for a badge to protect you in all circumstances you will
> sooner or later find yourself in dire straights. 
> Take care, MJC
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Robert J. Lawless 
>   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>   Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 10:22 PM
>   Subject: Montana Bars (the alcohol kind)
> 
> 
>   There was an extremely interested article in the Times a few days ago and I
> wanted to write something up about it.  Basically, the author held forth with
> a little sociology of Western Montana to which you may or may not agree.  I
> personally agree.
>   The West was settled with the presence of Christian churches and women
> except for the western half of Montana, some parts of Wyoming and
> Idaho.Because the social needs of the inhabitants of these areas were not met
> by churches, it was the various taverns and bars that filled in the gap. 
> Their role in society is still paramount in small towns and it differs
> somewhat from the norm.  Examples: under age children may sit and drink as
> long as they do not drink alcohol; children are allowed to stand in the bar
> to get warm and wait for the bus or their parents.  Dancing in the bar will
> include persons of all ages.
>   There are no real police in any of these small towns and that role falls to
> the bartender who keeps several pistols and a bunch of bats behind the bar to
> maintain control.
>   Hooligans from other towns may "attack" the bar and attempt to take control
> from the bartender.  Patrons are often enlisted to help the bartender repel
> the "outsiders"  and sometimes serious beatings occur.
> 
>   I found myself in such an incident in the late fifties in a bar near Twin
> Bridges, Montana.  A huge brawl broke out after these kids from "Boise"
> raided the bar. We won big time and though I was drunk, I got in some good
> swats with one of the bats.  The leader of the pack was so badly beaten by
> the bartender that he had to be hospitalized, suffering many broken bones
> etc.  Several of the kids were hauled off in an ambulance.  I thought this
> all to be very bizarre, no cops, and it was a bit harsh.  The bartender
> explained that you've got to teach those "bastards" from Boise a lesson.
> 
>   Since most of us still fish in Montana every now and again, I was wondering
> if anyone else has any other stories that would fit the thesis that rural
> Montana is poorly policed and that bars serve a social function much larger
> than just watering down the crowd.   






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