I used to use the Ketchum release a lot back when I lived in Montana.  I
never grabbed the line.  RAther, I would bring the fish in close to me with
the rod tip up.  Then I would run the tool down the tippet until it hit the
fly.  ONce the ketchum release is on the fly, you can then reverse the
direction of the hook.  Works best with barbless hook and fish that is hooked
in the corner of the mouth.  

I made a rule for myself years ago, and I only break it on rare occassions.
The rule is to never grab the tippett, especially with a strong, wild fish.  

The ketchum release was great for me when I would fish small flies.  I never
usedd it from the boat, only when I was wading.  

Just my 2 cents.  

James 

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Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 11:04 AM
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Subject: Re: Boga thingy? (now: Ketchum Release)[Scanned]


>From my experience, you don't touch the fish when using a Ketchum Release. 
You have one hand holding line tension, the other hand holding the release. 
You slide the release down the line into the fishes mouth and release the 
hook.

Most of the time, I will bring the fish up to the side of the drifter, grab 
the line with my left hand and slide the release down to the fish and 
release the hook. For larger fish that require netting, it works well if you 
have someone nets your fish, the fish will be laying in the bottom of the 
net, same technique, grab the line with your left hand and run the release 
down the line with your right hand, you release the hook and then the fish 
is in the net for revival if necessary.

ymmv,
JT

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From: "Uncle Brad and Elly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 10:20 AM
Subject: Re: Boga thingy?


> I've had problems with the "Ketchum Release "tool. It always seemed to me 
> that to make it work correctly  you had to have one hand holding the fish 
> cause it's trying to squirm out of your grip. the other hand putting a 
> slight tension on the hook/line and another hand to attach and slide the 
> gizmo down the line to the hook to push it out of position. Maybe I was 
> doing it wrong ,I don't know but everytime I used it it seemed like it was 
> necessary to have somebody else helping. I saw a video on how to use it 
> but the conditions in the film did not match any of the conditions I was 
> in when I was using it
> BjR.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Roger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 8:36 AM
> Subject: Re: Boga thingy?
>
>
>> In your message you indicated you found this website with some tools for 
>> dehooking fish. Can you give us the website address?  I have one I use 
>> all the time which is called Ketchum Release, but I only have one size of 
>> it. I think there are three different sizes available if I am not 
>> mistaken. It works pretty well.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Roger
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Gary Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 1:00 PM
>> Subject: RE: Boga thingy?
>>
>>
>>>I think the best way to release fish is with the device recommended by 
>>>the
>>> WDFW for salt water. I don't know where you would put it on a vest but 
>>> if
>>> you made it short enough it should be pretty easy. Simply take a section 
>>> of
>>> dowel and put a brass cupholder hook screwed into the end. Look at page 
>>> 14
>>> of the 2004 regs. I have a nice tool for smaller flys that I use for 
>>> trout
>>> but it is too small for large hooks and I can't remember the name of it. 
>>> I
>>> just found this website with some tools for dehooking fish that look 
>>> pretty
>>> nice. I might have to make one of these myself! The ones with the ful 
>>> circle
>>> look really nice. At least they wouldn't come off the line when a fish
>>> thrashes around like the J Hook ones do. Now if I could just figure out 
>>> a
>>> better way to unhook something that has been hooked with a trailing 
>>> hook...
>>> Hmmm...
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Steudel
>>> Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 12:10 PM
>>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> Subject: Boga thingy?
>>>
>>> Hey so as I've started catching larger fish, I've found that their teeth 
>>> are
>>> kinda nasty and can quickly cut your fingers up when you are removing 
>>> hooks.
>>> I saw some post a while back on a thing called a boga, that grabs their
>>> lips, anyone use one? Are they really ok for big fish? Seems like if it 
>>> was
>>> humane/safe enough for a fish, it actually might speed up the amount of 
>>> time
>>> you spend fussing with the fish. Plus it looks pretty small and you 
>>> could
>>> easily attach it to the back of your vest. Instead of carrying a net 
>>> that
>>> was big enough to hold a salmon.
>>>
>>> I saw some fishermen this weekend that instead of grabbing the fish, 
>>> they
>>> just tried to step on it to hold it down... seems wrong to me ... I 
>>> suppose
>>> if it's some deteriated fungus laden fish and you didn't want to touch
>>> it.... seems like a boga would help out here too.
>>>
>>> MS
>>>
>>
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