On Sun, 2002-05-05 at 23:45, James Kunz wrote:
> i'm using a diamond suprafax modem set for the v90 standard, the problem
> is more telstra is using around 3 different tech standarts withing our
> city.....(just listen to the ring signal when you call someone), there
> are old (1934) lines limited to 28.8k or less, newer one with speeds to
> 42k but no adsl and really new lines set for adsl, eg iinet pretends
> that the bayswater area is adsl enabled !!! it's not true !!!! my phone
> line (and the lines of neighbours aswell) is according to telstra
> incompatible to adsl thus speed is set to max 28.8k!!! James (and
> i'm paying commercial tarif!!!!)
> 

Shooting from the hip is dangerous, IMHO, since I live in Bayswater and
have been connected to the Internet via ADSL for over a year - you can
read my exploits in the archive.

I also think that your explanation of three types of lines is very
misleading. The age of the copper in the ground, though a factor, is not
AFAIK the determining factor for ADSL connectivity.

There are numerous factors that influence your ability to actually get
connected using ADSL, I'll outline a few:

The telephone exchange your physical copper wire is connected to must
have ADSL equipment installed. The roll-out has probably not gone as
smoothly as Telstra would have liked, and several exchanges have waited
months for connectivity. If you go to the bigpond website and put your
telephone number into the "Can I have ADSL"-form, you'll be able to tell
if your exchange is enabled.

The maximum distance between your wall socket and the exchange may not
exceed 3.5km wire length. I understand that this is related to the
amount of signal-loss over a longer distance. Also note that there are
cases where both longer and shorter wire lengths will and won't work.

You may not have a pair-gain connection. When blocks were sub-divided,
the original wiring within the suburb was overloaded. This system where
a street shares a number of copper pairs (since not everyone will be
talking at the same time) back to the exchange won't work if you're
connected all the time (like with ADSL).

You may not use an alarm-circuit (not it's real name, I forget what it's
called). This type of fixed connection sends an alarm-system pulse back
to the monitoring base every set period of time.

>From memory also, you may not have a fax-duet service installed on the
line that will carry ADSL.

Finally, the actual success of connecting to ADSL is dependent upon a
site-inspection which will determine if there is enough signal strength
(or put differently, not too much signal loss) for ADSL to actually
work. When an unnamed company came digging in my street to lay a
ring-fibre, they disturbed the copper pair I was connected to and ever
so slightly squashed it - Telstra found the fault and assigned me to a
different pair.

On a personal note, the copper we have in the ground was only ever
guaranteed to carry 9600 baud and I find it absolutely amazing that we
can pump so much data down cables that were never intended to carry what
they do. This broadband connectivity stuff is bordering on magic.

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