Jon

I would say that your guess that the SMTP settings are wrong is just
slightly off the mark - it is far more likely to be her POP3 settings that
are wrong. SMTP is used to send, something your m-in-l can do successfully,
and POP is used for collection.

So, ensure that the POP settings are correct. Specifically, the POP server
name (get from the ISP), the user name and password and ensure that she
hasn't got the secure password/login option (probably in advanced settings)
set as I've never come across an ISP that uses this.

Seeing as she used it successfully in France, make sure that the England
setting aren't different to the France settings for her ISP as most ISPs
will stop POP logins from outside their immediate domains.

Good luck

Greg

on 14/7/02 7:57 PM, Jon Davison at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Hi everyone
> 
> I'm not sure if this is strictly WAMUG territory, but I wonder if anyone
> could help with this problem.
> 
> My mother-in-law in the UK bought my 1300C last year. She is just starting
> to get to grips with it and the Mac OS and is at her wits end. She has
> Outlook Express installed, can't remember the version but it does not have
> Tools - Accounts', only preferences. 3400C/233/48RAM/Mac OS8.1
> 
> She can send emails okay, but cannot receive them ("unknown log-on method"
> "Invalid user or password"). I suggested that she gets her mail from
> Tiscalis webmail facility until the problem is sorted. This works, but she
> wants to use Outlook Express.
> 
> Her ISP is Tiscali UK. She lives in France for some of the year and she had
> Tiscali configured for France with no problems. Only when she got back to
> the UK did the problem start. My guess is that she has the wrong SMTP
> settings.
> 
> Can anyone help with this at all?
> 
> I attach her latest email to me.
> 
> "W.Joan Davies" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 18:29:21 +0100
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: problems still
> 
> Hi Jon,
> I've just had a long chat with a kind chap from Tiscali in answer to my fax
> BUT.... even he can't help me. We found one adjustment to make in
> Preferences but that didn't help.. He says some of the Protocols differ
> between incoming and outgoing mail, so because I can get one will not mean
> I can get the other.
> 
> He made various suggestions which I will relate to you ....
> 
> 1) I might try re-installing the disc. (if I dare!)
> 
> 2) He says - and so does his superior - that there is now virtually no
> information on the 4.5 version (I see the date for that was 1995-1999.) He
> said that sometimes Mac do different versions for different countries, so
> maybe .... ?
> 
> 3) I told him I am getting messages like "Network error (-3279)". He found
> mention of another "error" I was getting, but not this one, and he says it
> seems as if the laptop has not managed to disengage itself from YOUR
> computer as this sounds like an error in the parent (my word) computer.
> He says "it sounds as if network protocols are still in my laptop"
> 
> 4)He says the systems he DOES know about are the 9 or the 10 which are
> newer than the 4.5....
> 
> You can either email me, or email JoAn direct at: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> BTW. She has a great property in the south of France that she rents out,
> 20mins drive from Perpignan. If anyone is interested in this, please go to
> the small website I created for her.
> <http://www.eyeinthesky.com.au/voletsbleus.html>
> 
> Thanks in advance. If anyone can help her, I'm sure she would be very
> grateful. 
> Thanks again
> Jon