OK I feel like a klutz but I've fixed this thanks to the suggestions from the list......

The "Show modes recommended by display" did work the reason I didn't try it in the first place was that I looked at it and went "OK thats on the control panel for the main screen (built in) but there isn't one on the second (external) monitors control panel.... failed to apply the first rule my first programing lecturer told me "suck it and see"

Off Toppic ..... got to laugh - Eudora shows "suck it" as a double chilli warning.

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