On Thu, 2004-06-10 at 08:01, David de la Hunty wrote:
> Dear WAMUG,
> 
> Can anyone help me out with a good link or reference?
> 
> I have an OS 9 based LAN (because the software I need to run is still 
> Classic). I am thinking of buying a scientific device which is based 
> around a WinDoze computer running WinXP. It has USB and Ethernet 
> connections and can export its printout to an Excel spreadsheet. The 
> manual also describes logging in using a LAN intranet TCP/IP method, ie 
> with a browser, but I can’t get it to work. I have no experience with 
> TCP/IP in a LAN under 9 though I have done it in 10.2.x. Is it possible 
> to share files and log into an XP computer on the same ethernet LAN? 
> What do I have to do to the g3 Macs on the network to enable it? Or do 
> I have to run a computer under Panther, and my app under Classic, to 
> get the networking going?

Hmm, about three hundred different questions there, so I won't be
answering all of them, but here's a start:-)

You said that it allows logging in using a browser, so you won't need XP
to do that at all.

The manual for the device will no doubt talk about setting up it's IP
address in one way or another. It might talk about MAC addresses, or
default IP addresses, or the need of a setup program.

The most likely scenario is that it has a default IP address. You need
to set your computer up with an IP address "next-to" the default, so you
can change the device IP address to something more sane. For example:

        If your computer IP address is 192.168.0.1 and the device is
        10.10.10.10, then you cannot talk the device. So, change your
        computer's IP address to 10.10.10.11 and try to connect (while
        you're doing this you won't have Internet connectivity).
        
        If you can then connect, you can change the device IP to say
        192.168.0.2 and change your computer back to the original
        192.168.0.1 and you'll be laughing.

If it needs a (windows) setup program to change the IP, visit your
nearest friend with a Windows box and change the IP to something
appropriate.

If it talks about MAC addresses, then the simplest is likely to boot
into OSX and use the arping command to ping the MAC address, so you can
tell if it's working, the command will look something like this:

      * arping aa:bb:cc:dd:ee:ff
      * arping aabbccddeeff

Where those letters come from the back of the box, the MAC address.
There is another command, called arp, which looks something like: 

      * arp -s 192.168.0.2 aabbccddeeff

Which temporarily makes that device have that IP address. You'd best
read the manual pages on those commands, man arping and man arp, before
you start breaking things.

This is not intended to be a complete answer, for that you'd actually
likely need me to be there at the time, but there is enough stuff to
assist your google searches :-)

If you're completely stuffed and bamboozled, give me a call, but
understand that I do normally charge for these services.


Cheers,

Onno Benschop 

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