Mark Secker wrote:

>> So are there many others out there experiencing this sort of thing?
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> I was setting up a users personal laptop yesterday (private job at home not UWA) and after configuring the network for his ISP then plugging in the cable then loggin g I set the preinstalled Notrons antivirus to do an update (the preinstall virus def file was 3 months old). 15 minutes after connecting to the internet I ran the updated anti virus software and it found 4 Worm/Trojans.
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> this morning he rang me to tell me that he was getting popups and I told him to run "AdAware" and "Search and Destroy". in less than 4 hours of web browsing last night he had over 60 adware instances detected and removed. But was still getting new popups even as i was talking him minutes after running the ad removers.
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> He was rather exasperated and claimed that he felt like inserting the PC laptop (err how shall I put it "in through the out door") of the shop's sales staff that had scoffed at him when he told them that he had an iMac at work.
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For the poor PC users among us (and our friends); along with Firefox I advise the use of AVG antivirus over Norton$ as it does actually care about little, merely anoying trojans etc whereas norton ignores some as they arent 'viruses', just annoying:(

To finish the job, Zonealarm firewall, easy enough for novices to use.
The lack of an effective firewall will always allow a PC to re-infect itself, as the article states, immediately. It will still download gremlins but they are then trapped and unable to phone home.

All these are Karma (I think:) and $ FREE!

Dont tell potential switchers of course ;) A little knowledge could be a dangerous thing...

Should we have a 'Sub-MUG' for those of us who have to use/own/endure PCs, any suggestions, horrified shrieks or ideas?


Cheers

Paul