On Tue, 2005-02-01 at 12:32 +0800, Shay Telfer wrote:
> >Personally I have an older Toshiba that, under Linux, has nice manual
> >fan and power control, so I can run it in slower-and-silent mode even on
> >mains. I'd actually be very interested in knowing if the mac laptops
> >have this (and if you can manually turn the fan on if you wish to keep
> >the laptop cooler than it does normally).
> 
> Nope. Because I imagine that most users are really concerned about 
> the speed of their laptop's fan.

No, but I expect many are concerned about being able to tell their
laptop to keep its self cooler (when using it as a "lap-top" not an
"oh-my-god-it's-burning-me-through-a-pillow-top") or to run in low power
mode even on mains (because they're just word processing and want some
peace and quiet).

> I can see the online discussions now: Should my fan be on 3100 or 4500 RPM?
> Or: I forgot to turn my fan on and my laptop got really hot and no 
> longer works... Help!

Heh, I can imagine that.

However, in the case of my laptop the fan still turns on when it needs
to. I just get control over whether it runs all the time or not (to keep
the laptop cooler and more comfortable, or to run it quietly).

I think it's a perfectly reasonable thing to want, and not just for
hopeless geek users either. I know of several others who're really
annoyed by laptop fans and their vagaries.

I guess if the laptop runs cool enough and the fan is quiet enough it
wouldn't be that big a deal. I don't recall either of those being true
of the last mac laptop I tried out, but that _was_ a while ago.

--
Craig Ringer