yvonne,

Ive run into this wierd "can't access finder" before and I discovered that the finder was set to a desktop background and screensaver that didn't exist/was corrupt. As soon as I changed it, everything went back to normal. Essentially the lack of finder was due to a lopping crash of the finder- it would try and load the background, fail and then crash. Hence the lack of finder access. I hunted everywhere and i couldn't find the answer so it musnt' be very common.

That being said I've run onto my own issue with 10.3.8 where installing that update lead to a recurring kernel panic at startup - so I'm waiting for 10.3.9!

you can trash the previous system folder, as your computer obviously starts up from the new working system folder.


Dave Choy


On 26/03/2005, at 5:05 AM, yvonne wrote:


Subject: Re: help.... thank you
Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 08:13:51 +0800
X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619)

Thanks everyone who tried to help, really appreciated.

I had already tried the permissions and disc but well i did the old 'if
at first you don't succeed try try again'  since the permissions and
disc repair seemed to be the popular choice and the off and on and the
extensions off.... nothing. Looked like I was going to be very glad i
spent the time cleaning everything up and doing that backup.

Time for the better motto ...' if at first you don't succeed try
something different' and quite prepared to go the whole way started the
installation and there was the answer. I couldn't upgrade cos i already
had 10.3.8 and the discs are 10.3.4 but to my surprise i still had two
options.... wipe everything and start afresh or have the system folder
set aside and a new one created.  I took the set aside option and even
remembered this time to do a custom install and avoid the foreign bits
and in no time at all i was back up and running everything working
fine. Bit the bullet and loaded the 10.3.7 upgrade i have on disc....
still not game to go to the 10.3.8 incase that was the problem but i'm
sure i'll give it a go later today.

???? what do i do with the 'previous system' folder...trash it?

Yvonne

On 24/03/2005, at 4:08 PM, Shay Telfer wrote:

I have just upgraded from 10.2.8 to 10.3.4 then downloaded the 10.3.8
updater. I am working on it to send this email which at least tells
me some things are ok. I have the dock showing so can use most that
was in my dock [address book wont work] and with 10.2.8 I was using
alias menu so once i bring up anything in the dock I get top tool bar
with the alias pull down menus and can open those applications etc

 BUT I have no finder and finder, the finder icon in dock does not
work and anything else that was on the desktop has vanished
too...........how can I get my finder back and desktop stuff without
having to do a clean install?

I did do a full backup yesterday just to be on the safe side but wold
rather not have to go down that track.

Try restarting the machine, I find that sometimes the finder just
locks up.

Also, run Disk Utility and do a Repair Privileges.

Try booting with the shift key held down to disable any 3rd party
kernel extensions. If this works then you'll need to work out which
extensions to remove, as one's obviously causing some problems.

Good luck,
Shay
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