Sorry,

I should have specified a bit more. My real issue at the moment is
monitor size only. I'm by no means a web programmer, my clients have
very basic sites, and CSS isn't really an option. I am currently
playing around with it, and I love the examples at
www.csszengarden.com however I'm not the only person in the company
and the main other designer doesn't know CSS and has no desire to
learn it so I'm not able to make use of it except for on a personal
level.

I'm not worried about mobile phones and PDAs for most of the people
who'd be accessing our sites, they're just made for an average home
user, some specifically targeting the elderly and not particularly
technologically knowledgable, or for specific clients to access form
work.

Browser compatibility isn't an issue wither, we use very basic things,
we don't go into Flash, secure sites for online payments, or anything
else other than pretty basic HTML. I check them on the basic browsers
for PC and Mac, Internet Explorer, Netscape, Safari, Mozilla and a
couple of others. Because our sites are so basic connection speed
isn't an issue anyway, I am on dial-up at home, it's slow, but it
means I can check them, and if I'm not happy with it the site's not
suitable for a good portion of our users.

Overall I agree with you, which is why I'm playing around with CSS at
the moment, it's definately the way to go with most web development,
but it's not really an option for us at the moment.

Thanks for the other link though, it will be really helpful for me, I
hate code myself but since it's something I need to get used to an
explanation of how it works will make it all a lot easier to
understand. There's also a lot of other info there I could really use.
It's unfortunate that making things look pretty just isn't enough for
me to do my job properly anymore!

Thanks again,
Kelly


On 4/28/05, Onno Benschop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Kelly Duffy wrote:
> 
> >I was wondering if anyone can give me a rough idea of the average
> >resolution for new Mac monitors? I hate websites that aren't Mac
> >friendly, I find the colours change between my PC and Mac, so I can
> >generally fix it up, but at the moment I have pretty much no idea what
> >size I should be making my websites to find a happy medium.
> >
> >
> This is going to likely sound like a cop-out, but you should really
> consider the implications of what you are asking. The whole point of the
> web is to be a common distribution environment for information. The
> places were that information is distributed is as varied as it gets:
> 
>    * different connection speeds
>    * audio and Braille screen readers
>    * mobile phone browsers
>    * pda browsers
>    * text-only browsers
>    * screen resolution varying from 160x160 to 1600x1200 and others
>    * paper vs. screen
> 
> The above just name a few of the things you'll come across and I've not
> even touched on compatibility between browsers.
> 
> So, the question you are asking is the wrong question in my professional
> opinion. The real question is: "How do I design a web-page that will
> render appropriately in the environment in which it is presented?"
> 
> The answer used to be, create graphics, tables, single pixel lines, set
> widths, set font-sizes, etc.
> 
> The answer today is, separate out the content from the display. Make
> very simple HTML pages and apply style sheets to them. I find great
> success in thinking of a page as chunks of data and semantically wrap
> each "element" into a <div>, so you can later refer to that div class
> within the style-sheet and change the layout completely.
> 
> A great example of this is a very simple page, called the
> <http://www.csszengarden.com/>, which has hundreds of different
> style-sheets attached that show different views of the same information.
> I suggest that you should also visit <http://www.alistapart.com/> to
> learn about how style-sheets really work.
> 
> So, "how big should I make it" is not really what this medium is about
> any more.
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
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