Howdy,

On 18/06/2005, at 5:04 AM, Shay in the wamug Digest 693t wrote:

With all this discussion of IP telephony, I thought I'd suggest that
if you're installing an IP phone (ie something that looks like a
normal phone handset) beware that some of the IP services do not
handle emergency call numbers such as 000 correctly, nor provide
location information to emergency services. This has already resulted
in lawsuits and deaths in the US.

You may think you'd never use the IP phone to try to call emergency,
but you may not be the person making the call.

Also, unless you've got a UPS, your IP phone won't work in a
blackout. In fact your ISP may not even have uninterruptable power at
the exchange or their office, in which case it won't matter if you've
got a UPS at home. :)

Have fun
Shay


Yes. I believe that legislation compelling VoIP providers to provide terminations to the US 911 is now getting drafted. How that will affect the cost of the service will be interesting to see. And how it can be guaranteed in the light of power provision is more than interesting. But I don't know how telephony is regulated in the US and they may not have the same setup as here with Telstra.

Good thought experiment Onno.
And if you value the commons, you might want to factor in the cost of bandwidth which peer-to-peer thangs like Skype commandeer for routing calls. The last time I looked at VoIP on Skype, there was a lot of evidence that some users were being unwittingly co-opted as "supernodes" for such routing traffic. What costs would be accounted for in this situation? Does Skype have a bundled bandwidth limiter now to ensure "member" control of routing?

I've tried a few of the chat/VoIP utilities, such as faktortel and firefly in Australia, and a few of the os ones who'd allow a cheap test run. Also plugged into Skype for a test run. The codecs are, aside from Skype's which is obviously the reason for their huge popularity because it is outstanding, just adequate for anything except a perfect network connection. And you can forget a rational chat if your connection is to someone on a radio network. In chat mode, you rely on your network connection much less than you do for terminating at the POTS system you are calling to, but you are also faced with Shay's problem of needing to put in constant fiddling. And you always remain at the mercy of the network beyond the copper wire.

I got tired very quickly of trying to configure family and friends remotely and returned to the wonderful voice quality of the POTS provided by Telstar (sic); after all, I already pay a gouging rental for connection to it, so I might as well take advantage of the superb quality. The cost is of course relative, as they say. VoIP, for my experience, takes me back 25 years to those infernal echo-chamber overseas calls. And to all the manual mediation and tweaking you had to do just to connect. Free sh*te. And another few years before that, it was like that for interstate calls. Calls to mobile terminations are a surrealistic experience, putting it nicely.

I hope it improves because I'm getting more calls via packet-loss echo chamber on my Telstar phone every month and I've hung up a few times out of pity for the caller. It seems that no amount of telling them the quality is poor seems to get through to some enthusiastic adopters.
Disclaimer:  I have less than perfect hearing.

Nancy M