Thanks for the help to you all
Apple/shift /3 is the quickest option by far and for some reason one has just decided to appear on my desk top
Apple/ shift/ 4 is slower because it is manual but it is more  defined

I think the problem may lay with the fact that I had a demo copy of Snapz Pro and that was causing some problem. There has been word that it was flaky under 10.4

I would dearly like that to work before I try to fork out the money to buy the license. The other thing I have found is that the VLC player mutes my preferences. I have thrown away a few files now simply because I thought there was no sound.

This slows my whole process down to a crawl now.

There are so many more things to look at now when it come to being a vidiot like myself.

Are there any good books out there on ripping small bites from movies and creating DVDs for school use? Sometimes all I want is something like the Brave Sir Robin extract from the Holy grail to prove a point ooto students
tom samson