On 13/01/2006, at 1:00 PM, Neil Houghton wrote:
Many thanks to Craig, Ronda, Greg & others who passed on so much
info on the
recent "networking for idiots thread - I now have a much clearer
idea on how
this all works (I think/hope!).
I have now come across another area where Tiger seems to behave
differently
- it may be my settings but I think it is more that some networking
features
have been changed in Tiger.
The problem came when I tried to connect to my G4 400MHz Ti Powerbook,
running OS 9.1.
Whilst my G4 iMac (running 10.2.8) would connect OK the new G5 iMac
(running
10.4.3) would see the powerbook but attempting to connect would
give the
error message
"Connection failed
This file server uses an incompatible version of the AFP protocol. You
cannot connect to it.".
I should say that I normally have my powerbook set-up to access the
internet
via dial-up so TCP/IP is set to connect via PPP. Previously with my
G4 iMac
I had found that the iMac could see and connect to the powerbook but
although the powerbook could see the iMac it would not connect to
it. After
much searching of the Apple knowledge base and other sites, I found
that the
reason was that the although the OSX iMac could connect to shared
volumes
via Appletalk, it would only allow access to it's shared volumes
via TCP/IP.
I found that if I set TCP/IP on the powerbook to connect via
ethernet (and
set up the addresses manually) I could connect to the iMac - though
then I
could not connect to the internet!
I have lived with this by having two locations set up on the
powerbook - one
for internet with TCP/IP set to PPP and one for two-way file
sharing with
TCP/IP set to ethernet. Whilst annoying, this has not been too bad
because
for most purposes I could leave the powebook set for internet and
do any
file management from the iMac. On the rare occasions when I needed
to mount
the iMac shared volume on the Powerbook (rather than the other way
around) I
would temporarily change locations on the Powerbook.
However given the error message I get when trying to access the
powerbook
from the new G5 iMac, Tiger no longer can access shared volumes over
Appletalk - although you can apparently turn Appletalk on & off ??!
When I changed TCP/IP on the powerbook to connect via Ethernet,
Tiger would
then connect and mount the shared volume.
Could anyone confirm that my understanding is correct here - or do
I just
need to alter some setting somewhare to allow Tiger to connect via
Appletalk
while the powerbook is set up with TCP/IP to connect via PPP as I
can do
with Jaguar.
Hi Neil,
From what I understand about file sharing between different OS':
Mac OS 9, and Mac OS X 10.1 to 10.3.9 support file sharing (AFP)
connections over AppleTalk.
However, Mac OS X versions 10.0 to 10.0.4 and 10.4 and later can
only connect to AppleShare over TCP/IP.
Mac OS 9 and Mac OS X can both connect over TCP/IP without AppleTalk.
Mac OS X 10.4 and later don't support Personal File Sharing (or other
AFP) over Appletalk, though by initiating the connection from the
opposite direction you could still achieve an IP connection from a
Mac OS 9 computer to a sharing Mac OS X computer.
The Network preference pane in Mac OS X 10.4 and later still offers
the AppleTalk checkbox, but it is for browsing AppleTalk-advertised
resources and zones.
The subsequent connection must be over TCP/IP.
Hope I haven't confused you more.
Cheers,
Ronni
