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From: Robert Howells <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 9 September 2006 7:44:00 PM
To: Ronda Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Super Talent Flash


On 9 Sep 2006, at 7:27 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:


Checked on firmware updates - none required
Yes, when I boot from OS 9.2 the Flash is recognised.
Recent bits of software have made me consider going to 10.4 but my disk drive is for CDs only. Would have to purchase a CD version and then take all night to install!!
Are you finding OS 10.3.9 stable?
Merv

Hi Merv,

Just a thought ,,,You are plugging the drive into the iMac's USB port? Don't use the keyboard's ports or ports on a USB hub, use ports on the iMac itself. OSX 10.2.8 should be able to read a MS-DOS formatted USB Flash Drive.

Another thing ... are you ejecting it correctly from both the iBook & iMac 'File > Eject'.

You could also run the Update Combo 10.2.8
<http://www.apple.com/support/downloads/ macosxupdatecombo_10_2_8.html>

Cheers,
Ronni

At 8:11 +0800 5/9/06, Mervyn & Giuliana Bond wrote:
Ronni
The device came with a USB extension chord which I plugged into the back of the iMac. I have also tried a direct plug in with no success.
Ejecting correctly?  Not at first, dragged the image to the trash.
Already running on the update
Your interest appreciated.
Merv

Today I checked out another make of USB Flash and and it worked on my 10.2.8. It is formatted as DOS FAT 16. If the offending flash was similarly formatted might it make a difference? Disk Utility only offers FAT 32, and given file sizes that is understandable. However, it might be worth a try, but how.
Merv

Hmmmm  !
We still have not confirmed what current that Talent Flash is trying to draw ,
and whether your USB port is able to deliver without a voltage drop !

Remember it is a USB2 trying to make out like a USB1.1 ... which is not
normally a problem ... but ...

Was the working USB flash a 1.1 or USB2 ?

Bob

Hi Bob & Merv,
From what I have read USB devices draw power from the USB bus. They can either be a "low-power" device or a "high-power" device. The high-power devices draw the full 500mA that USB allows. Low-power devices draw no more than 100mA or so. When a device is plugged into a USB port, it identifies to the host whether it is a low-power or high-power device. The host computer is then able to determine if it can supply enough power for the device.

If it can't, the USB port is shut down to preserve the circuitry.

The newer SanDisk Cruzer Mini devices (they are long and thin rather than short and stubby) draw slightly more power than a low-power USB device is supposed to.

A Mac sees this discrepancy and shuts down the USB port. Once the port is shut down, it's down for as long as the machine is running. Rebooting the Mac helps, but not always.

My guess is that the Apple USB implementation is following specs and correctly shutting down the USB port when too much current is being drawn.

I have a 1GB Super Talent Ultra Flash USB2.0 Flash Drive formatted MS-DOS FAT32 works fine in OSX10.4.7.

I'm thinking like Bob, that perhaps your Talent flash is drawing too much power from your USB port & therefore shutting he port down.

Cheers,

Ronni

Even so , it's queer that this thing is recognised and will mount when the Mac is booted in 9.2.2 ???

and the device is recognised and will mount on a different Mac ! ?

Merv,  try and find another USB flash that is formatted in Fat32 .
This is the first time I have heard of FAT 16 , but I guess it must be used somewhere !

Bob