How we work (in theory though  not always in practice):

1: master image for machine - initial machine setup is backed up to allow system restore. This image is stored in our remote management system to allow the machine to be reimaged (or for new identical machines to be imaged exactly the same way.) this is kept until the machine (or all similar machines) are disposed of at the end of their life, new, additional, images are built for major system updates.

For home users this not so critical a restore from CD/DVD is acceptable but most machines here are default setup rather than highly customised like our users, what I would do instead as a home mac user though is after the machine is setup and configured, all applications are installed (or migrated from old computer) and user data is migrated from old computer I'd take a external drive, install a bootable OS of a version identical to the new machine and then use the setup migrate to make this system a full recovery/restore volume so that in the event of internal hard disk failure you can recover your OS, applications and data up to this point, then take this disk and store it off line (and preferably off site). Probably each year you should buy a new hard disk and repeat this process.


2: grandfather user data backup - User profile (all user data) is then backed up, the disk is removed from the system and stored off site for 1 year before being bought back and recycled (theoretically this should be on a different type of media [tape instead of disk] or at least a different brand of media [ie WD instead of seagate])


3: Son user data backups - each week the user data is backed up to an online system (ie disk is left switched on and connected)

4: Father backups - each month the most recent user backup (ie the latest "son backup") is taken off line and stored off line (unplugged from machine, powered down usually stored onsite, usually a different room, but from the computer) until it is due to be recycled one week later.

I've not installed Leopard (10.5) yet so I've not had time to look at how time machine can be configured but at a guess I'd use it to use three external drives as backup disks, keep one for a year off site before recycling (or just buying a new disk for a new annual backup), keep another one off line for a month before recycling, and keep one permanently attached for rolling backups.





For those in the IT business, the concept of the Grandfather, Father Son backup is the most TRUSTED form of traditional backup. A single backup copy is really no backup at all for the reasons described below - it is also insecure as when you do your next backup, you write over your only existing backup and if anything fails in the process, you risk losing it all. Therefore you always need at least twice the backup space (grandfather and father copies) for the device you want to backup (the son). You only ever backup to the grandfather device, which you then rename the father, with the current father device being renamed as the grandfather. (...and keep them in separate physical places) I recently purchased 2 x 500GB WD mechanisms from Austin Computers for $139 each, so you can't really complain about the price! BTW - best to have two similar cases, preferably screwless, but easy entry with internal power supply (Sarotech brand have been good for me) and just exchange the mechanisms as needed. (Most of the time my backup cases never have the tops on as I am changing the mechanisms regularly...) Better to spend a bit more on a couple of good quality cases and then you're only up for the mechanisms which are dirt cheap.

Regards, BRett


On 12/12/2007, at 8:44 PM, Wez wrote:

I have three WD drives internally apart from the Apple one in my machine and resently purchased a MyBook 1.5TB

The MyBook has been working perfectly for about 2 weeks and has now lost the firewire controller.

Took it back to PLE who confirmed the Firewire controller seems dead. The drives themselves still have data on them fine which was a relief but I only have USB1 on my work machine.

So this has been my first hiccup with the WB brand and the drives themselves are still fine. I have no idea what happened to the controlled.

The warranty will only cover the drive as a unit not the case which means how I have to find room to return the data to my machine and before I erase the drive and get it swapped for a new one.

This does make me wonder how useful this is going to be as a backup drive as a full 1.5 TB with any dead controller is going to be absoultely useless as I won't have the room to return the data

WEZ!

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