Hi Laura

Yes I though it was the HD, I have seen that happen many times :(  I am sure 
Daniel will be able to help though :)

Roger

On 06/06/2010, at 12:27 PM, Laura Webb wrote:

> Hi Ronni
> 
> Yes I have tried that suggestion but nothing happened at all. No Apple icon 
> nor question mark.
> 
> I had considered contacting Daniel but did not want to bother him on a 
> holiday weekend. Now he has offered I'll contact him off list and see what we 
> can sort out.
> 
> Many thanks
> Laura
> 
> 
> On 06/06/2010, at 11:32 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:
> 
> Hi Laura,
> 
> Before you take your MacBook to a Service Technician.
> Did you try my first suggestion in my previous email? 
> 
> 1. Startup whilst holding the Option (alt) key.
> 2. Then select your Startup Drive.
> 3. Restart from your Startup Drive
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> 
> On 06/06/2010, at 11:23 AM, Laura Webb wrote:
> 
>> Ronni, Eugene, Greg and Roger
>> 
>> Thank you all for your advice.
>> 
>> I did have Apple Care but of course it has now expired. I was unaware it 
>> could have been extended and will note that for future reference. I know it 
>> is probably time for me to upgrade to a more recent model but having spent 
>> quite a bit on replacing the optical drive and buying SL earlier in the year 
>> I was hoping to get a bit more life from what I have.
>> 
>> Starting in Safe Mode has not worked, I still just get the screen with the 
>> question mark. 
>> 
>> When booting from the external HD there is no sign of the HD icon on the 
>> screen, nor is it visible in Disk Utility, all that shows there is the 
>> external HD. So it is looking rather ominous that the main HD might indeed 
>> have died. Would it normally show when booting from an external drive?
>> 
>>  I have lost some recent work and, learning the hard way, I now realise I 
>> should back up more often. But if that's the only consequence of this 
>> experience then I can feel fortunate. Right now, just being able to use my 
>> MacBook is a bonus.
>> 
>> Rather than try anything else, should I now stay with the external drive 
>> until such time as I am able to have someone check my MacBook?
>> 
>> How fortunate we all are to have access to this list and to those who are so 
>> willing to share their knowledge. I was feeling so distraught this morning, 
>> Before thinking of using my external drive I felt there was no way to make 
>> contact with anyone who might be able to offer help. It's easy to forget 
>> that computers have become so much a part of our lives, until something goes 
>> wrong!!!
>> 
>> My grateful thanks.
>> 
>> Laura
>> 
>> 
>> On 06/06/2010, at 10:15 AM, Roger Kortas wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Laura
>> 
>> 4 years is not too bad for a Hard Drive, I have had some last for over 7 
>> years and some just a few months!!  If you had Applecare then it would be 
>> covered for 3 years unless you have extended it?  If you buy a new drive the 
>> it would be covered by the manufacture for 1 year.  To give you an example 
>> of the cost of a new drive at the moment you can get a  WD SCORPIO BLUE 
>> 500GB 5400/8MB/SATA2 # for around $85.00
>> 
>> best regards
>> 
>> Roger
>> 
>> 
>> On 06/06/2010, at 9:08 AM, Laura Webb wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> Thank you Ronni and Eugene
>>> 
>>> I knew there was some way to start up in safe mode but could not remember 
>>> how to do it!  I've now printed out the instructions. 
>>> 
>>> I have to go out for a while and will then come back and try what has been 
>>> suggested. I do hope the problem is not too dire and if it is, will 
>>> certainly contact Apple. My MacBook is almost 4 years old but would have 
>>> thought the hard drive would last longer than than that.
>>> 
>>> Thanks again easing my pain. I'll report back a little later on.
>>> 
>>> Regards
>>> Laura
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 06/06/2010, at 8:54 AM, Eugene wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Laura,
>>> 
>>> all is not too bad.
>>> 
>>> The mother board and memory modules are still good otherwise you wouldn't 
>>> have got going.
>>> 
>>> By the sound of it, it is down to the internal hard drive. Good on you for 
>>> having a backup drive to boot from and hopefully with all of your essential 
>>> documents still safe.
>>> 
>>> With the computer now booting is the other drive visible? If yes, it 
>>> probably has a corrupt file essential for running/starting up the computer, 
>>> simply reinstall the operating system. (not so likely as it died during 
>>> operation, as you said)
>>> 
>>> If not then can you see the HD using Disk Utility? (find this in 
>>> applications/utility or on the install disks) If yes, get Disk Utility to 
>>> do a repair.
>>> 
>>> If Disk Utility can't see the HD then the HD could have died. Apple had a 
>>> huge amount of problems with these drives. Is it still under warranty? Even 
>>> if it is not under warranty I would hassle Apples as there is a implied 
>>> warranty that HD should not die even after 3 years.
>>> 
>>> If they won't come to the party, 2.5 inch SATA drives are relatively cheap 
>>> and simple to install on the MB, hopefully this will be the last resort.
>>> 
>>>                    Regards,
>>>                    Eugene
>>> 
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>>> On 06/06/2010, at 8:21 AM, Laura Webb wrote:
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 13" MacBook 10.6.2
>>>> 1.83 GHZ Intel Core Duo
>>>> 2 GB 667 MHz DDR2 5DRAM
>>>> 
>>>> Last evening the screen froze so I had to switch off, expecting that when 
>>>> re started all would be well. Not so, the chime was there but then a blank 
>>>> whitish screen appeared and after a while a black rectangular object in 
>>>> the middle of the screen with a question mark.
>>>> 
>>>> I switched off again and hoped everything would be OK this morning but it 
>>>> is not. The only way I could start up was to use my external hard drive 
>>>> that I use for back ups. How glad I am to have that!! And that's how I am 
>>>> connected right now.
>>>> 
>>>> Please can someone offer some advice? It's a bit like getting sick at the 
>>>> weekend, there are no outside  resources available, and then of course we 
>>>> also have a holiday tomorrow.
>>>> 
>>>> A;though relieved that the external drive has saved the day I still hope 
>>>> someone might be able to tell me what the problem is. I've never seen this 
>>>> happen before.
>>>> 
>>>> Regards
>>>> Laura
>>>> 
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