Ok, I am interested in this thread and watching with interest. Is the
Widget noted below something I could use to monitor my TM backups? There
isn't any indication of the exact part of the process that's going on
unless opening TM preferences and watching the progress bar - but still
not much info about what is really going on. 

 

How do I get this Widget? Is it something users recommend I DON'T use?

 

Regards

 

Peter.

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Ronda Brown
Sent: Thursday, 30 September 2010 12:08 PM
To: WAMUG Mailing List
Subject: Re: Question re Time Capsule 'path to volume'

 

Hi Steven,

 

Thanks for getting back with more information. From what I can gather
from the widget error messages, they indicate that what's on your
internal HD may not match the hidden "File System Event Database" that
OSX keeps on each disk, and TM normally uses to see what's been changed
since the last backup and needs to be copied. 

Since it is "untrustable," TM must examine every directory (folder) on
your system, and compare it to your backups, instead. This is, of
course, a lengthy procedure. 


This is usually caused by an improper shutdown, but can be the result of
other things, too. And once it occurs, the whole process must be
repeated for each unsuccessful backup attempt until one completes
normally.

If you have had a force power-off, you'll get the UUID problem and TM
will do a deep traversal. There's no way around that: it's the only way
TM can be sure that all the changes made since your last backup will be
saved this time. So, if at all possible, let it run.

But Firstly:

1.  Exclude the Time Machine Partition from spotlight, via System
Preferences > Spotlight > Privacy.

 

2. In System Preferences > Energy Saver make sure you don't have
selected "Put the hard disk(s) to sleep when possible".

   Probably best to also put Computer Sleep to "Never" as well.

 

Then try a Time Machine Backup and if possible try not to use the
computer too much while this backup is occurring.

Don't interrupt the backup, it will take quite a long time to finish.

 

If that doesn't help, note the time one of these backups starts, then
use the Console app (in your Applications/Utilities folder) to see if
there are other messages indicating a conflict with your backups.

When it starts, click Show Log List in the toolbar, then navigate in the
sidebar that opens up to your system.log and select it. Navigate to the
Starting standard backup message, then see what follows that might
indicate some sort of error, failure, termination, exit, etc.

 

Cheers,

Ronni

 

 

 

 
On 30/09/2010, at 10:19 AM, Steven Knowles wrote:





Thanks all for the suggestions. A litte more detail...

 

Backups of my Macbook Pro (running 10.6.4) have begun failing part way
through the back up process. I have a little Time Capsule backup widget
which I have on Dashboard (can't recall name of the widget, but it gives
a little extra narrative on what's happening during the back up
process). A few days ago, when I noticed the back up process not
completing, the widget gave the error as something to do with Spotlight.
I no longer have the exact error message, but looking the error message
up on the web led me to this page ...

 

http://discussions.info.apple.com/message.jspa?messageID=7059555

 

... which seemed to be about the problem I was having.

 

The back up error message seemed to tie in with the fact that not long
before that there was a Spotlight indexing process underway at a time I
had to shutdown my machine, so interrupting the indexing process may not
have been helpful. The suggestion of deleting the spotlight directory
seems to make sense, and a better option than erasing the Time Capsule
(which may end up being necessary if I can't get Time Capsule to index
Spotlight again).

 

Regards your questions Ronni ...

 

        Have you been able to backup to Time Capsule initially? 

 

Yes.





Does Time Capsule appear in Disk Utility or in Finder?

 

Yes.





Have you been able to 'select disk' in System Preferences > Time
Machine?

 

Yes.





Do Attempts to back up get "backup disk is not available" message?

 

More detail in a second.





Or is your problem "Time Capsule gets stuck at "Preparing Backup..." ?

 

No.





Are you using Airport Utility v5.5.1?

 

Yes.

 

 

As I type, a back up is 20GB through a 104GB back up. I have a 250GB
hard disk with 100GB available. I don't know why the back up is so
large. The widget I spoke of gave recent error details as ...

 

---------------

Starting standard backup

Attempting to mount network destination using URL:
afp://steven%[email protected]/Data

Mounted network destination using URL:
afp://steven%[email protected]/Data

QUICKCHECK ONLY; FILESYSTEM CLEAN

Disk image /Volumes/Data-1/MacBook Pro.sparsebundle mounted at:
/Volumes/Time Machine Backups

Backing up to: /Volumes/Time Machine Backups/Backups.backupdb

Event store UUIDs don't match for volume: Macintosh HD

Node requires deep traversal:/ reason:must scan subdirs|new event db|

No pre-backup thinning needed: 118.85 GB requested (including padding),
133.81 GB available

Copied 19.6 GB of 96.5 GB, 73391 of 183430 items

Stopping backup.

Error: (-43) SrcErr:NO Copying
/users/steven/Library/Logs/CrashReporter/NML2NDeviceObserver_2010-09-29-
193147_MacBook-Pro-2.crash to /Volumes/Time Machine
Backups/Backups.backupdb/MacBook Pro
(2)/2010-09-28-085307.inProgress/*******-****-****-****-************/Mac
intosh HD/Users/steven/Library/Logs/CrashReporter

Copied 88263 files (19.9 GB) from volume Macintosh HD.

Copy stage failed with error:11

Backup failed with error: 11

Ejected Time Machine disk image.

Ejected Time Machine network volume.

---------------

 

Those asterisks I've manually included, overtyping a code I thought may
be private.

 

That backup underway has just failed, with error message in widget
showing ....

 

---------------

Starting standard backup

Network destination already mounted at: /Volumes/Data-1

QUICKCHECK ONLY; FILESYSTEM CLEAN

Disk image /Volumes/Data-1/MacBook Pro.sparsebundle mounted at:
/Volumes/Time Machine Backups

Backing up to: /Volumes/Time Machine Backups/Backups.backupdb

Event store UUIDs don't match for volume: Macintosh HD

Node requires deep traversal:/ reason:must scan subdirs|new event db|

---------------

 

I've tried the suggestions re identifying the path, still no success on
that note. Happy to hear other suggestions for a fix, but ultimately I
guess I may have to wipe Time Capsule.

 

Cheers, Steven

 

 

On 30/09/2010, at 5:21 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:





 

On 30/09/2010, at 8:19 AM, Peter Hinchliffe wrote:





 

On 30/09/2010, at 1:08 AM, Steven Knowles wrote:





My Macbook Pro isn't backing up to Time Capsule. 

 

>From this page ....

 

http://discussions.info.apple.com/message.jspa?messageID=7059555

 

... Glenn Carter refers to the following string for Terminal ...

 

sudo rm -ri /path_to_volume/.Spotlight-V100

 

where /path_to_volume is the path of the volume in question.

 

 

To replace 'path_to_volume' I've tried ....

 

Volumes/Time Machine Backups

Volumes/Data

Volumes/Data/afp://Time Capsule._afpovertcp._tcp.local/Data/MacBook
Pro.sparsebundle

 

...but all give me "No such file or directory".

 

Can anyone please suggest what I should be using as the Terminal
command?

 

Cheers, Steven

 

This is extremely difficult to answer without having direct access to
your system. One way of sorting out the "/path_to_volume" is to open a
Terminal window, then type "cd " at the prompt (note: include the space
character after cd) then drag the icon of your Time Capsule disk onto
the Terminal Window, and press return. If you then type "pwd" you will
see the correct path to the Time Capsule device.

 

The command you supply is puzzling. It literally says "recursively
remove all files with the name '.Spotlight-V100' from the volume in
question, and ask me each time before deleting". I'm not sure how this
will help.  

 

Hi Steven,

 

I agree with Peter, I fail to see this command helping.  We need some
more information to be able to give any constructive assistance.

 

Have you been able to backup to Time Capsule initially? 

Does Time Capsule appear in Disk Utility or in Finder?

Have you been able to 'select disk' in System Preferences > Time
Machine?

Do Attempts to back up get "backup disk is not available" message?

Or is your problem "Time Capsule gets stuck at "Preparing Backup..." ?

Are you using Airport Utility v5.5.1?

 

 

Cheers,
Ronni

17" MacBook Pro  Intel Core i7

2.66GHz / 4GB / 1067 MHz DDR3 / 500GB Serial ATA Drive @ 7200rpm


OS X 10.6.3 Snow Leopard
Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)

 

 

 

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