Ok good luck with all that and thanks for the help. i hope you don't suffer 
from Bianca's anger. I am in Mandurah where she is allegedly heading for. All 
battened down as best we can.

Regards

Peter...
On 29/01/2011, at 12:39 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:

> Ok Peter, I’m glad that has made sense to you, as I won’t be able to help 
> anymore today. 
> 
> I’ve been busy lowering furniture to the ground using ’A Rope’, all the 
> furniture on the South, west & north balconies of my house which sits on the 
> highest hill overlooking the ocean (which Cyclone Bianca is heading for)!
> After each item I have to go downstairs and disconnect, go back up and 
> connect another … all good exercise :-)
> I’ve now put all these items in “Ron’s Shed”.
> The furniture on the East balcony is too heavy and I’m sure the cyclone winds 
> will come from either the North/West or South/West or from straight across 
> the ocean ‘West’.
> 
> I’ve arranged for someone to come this afternoon with his chain saw to cut a 
> few branches off the front tree (as it is close to my power line).
> Hope he doesn’t let me down.
> 
> I’m in the process now of getting documents etc together “Emergency 
> Evacuation - What to Take” just in case things get really bad.
> I’ll put all this in the boot of “Tigger” (my car … I can’t think of a safer 
> place). 
> 
> If I have to evacuate, I will take my MacBook Pro and a current BackUp Drive 
> … most of my life is on this backup drive ;-)
> 
> Hope to be back “Online” after Bianca hopefully passes, or heads out to sea 
> where it won’t do as much damage.
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> 
> On 29/01/2011, at 12:21 PM, Peter Crisp wrote:
> 
>> Ok, that seems to make sense. i'll have a look through the links so I 
>> understand a bit clearer. It seems then to be behaving as it should. 
>> 
>> Cheers.
>> 
>> PEter...
>> On 29/01/2011, at 11:44 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Peter,
>>> 
>>> If the kids have selected in their iTunes > Preferences > Sharing - “look 
>>> for shared libraries” & “Share my Library on my local network” on their 
>>> Macs, each library will show under shared in each of their iTunes and they 
>>> can click on a track and play it.
>>> 
>>> They don’t need to have “Home Sharing” turned on under “Advanced” just to 
>>> share and play each others music.
>>> 
>>> "Home Sharing” allows more than just “Sharing" 
>>> 
>>> iTunes includes another sharing feature called "Home Sharing". With this 
>>> feature, you can share content across Macs or PCs in your home, copying 
>>> files from one computer to another so each user has files locally to play 
>>> and to sync to their iOS devices. 
>>> 
>>> Using Home Sharing is much easier than transferring files over a network 
>>> and manually adding them to your iTunes library; just select, click and 
>>> copy.
>>> 
>>> There is a condition required for this feature: all the users must set it 
>>> up using the same iTunes Store account. (This is obviously to dissuade 
>>> people from setting Home Sharing up with friends.)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Perhaps these links might help:
>>> <http://www.macworld.com.au/help/sharing-itunes-libraries-2-16691/>
>>> 
>>> <http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3819>
>>> 
>>> <http://www.wikihow.com/Set-up-Home-Sharing-in-iTunes>
>>> 
>>> Windows 7 & iTunes Home Sharing:
>>> <http://www.brighthub.com/computing/windows-platform/articles/77534.aspx>
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Ronni
>>> 
>>> On 29/01/2011, at 10:33 AM, Peter Crisp wrote:
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Ok, thanks for that Ronni. however, the kids also want to share their 
>>>> libraries between themselves - whether I agree with the need for them to 
>>>> share or not isn't relevant apparently but i have no specific reason to 
>>>> inhibit their cross sharing. So that means therefore that between them 
>>>> they wont be able to see each others libraries I presume when in Sharing 
>>>> Off mode.
>>>> 
>>>> Anyway, thanks for the help again.
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers
>>>> Peter.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 29/01/2011, at 10:22 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Peter,
>>>>> 
>>>>> That’s correct … Home Sharing should NOT be turned on the other computers 
>>>>> iTunes … they are not Sharing their iTunes Library!
>>>>> Home Sharing is being handled via the computer that has “Peter’s Library” 
>>>>> iTunes.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I presumed you had Home Sharing only set on the one computer that was 
>>>>> sharing its iTunes Library. 
>>>>> I should know by now “Never Assume Anything” ;-)
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Ronni
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 29/01/2011, at 9:59 AM, Peter Crisp wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi Ronni, I have accidentally made some progress with this. I did as you
>>>>>> suggested by tilting the arrow, and still the whole library visible and
>>>>>> playable. So I went Advanced>Turn Off Home Sharing" on one of the kids
>>>>>> Macbooks. This still left "Peters Library" showing (but undocked) and 
>>>>>> when I
>>>>>> selected it, it refreshed and only showed the permissible "Kids Playlist"
>>>>>> from Peter's library".
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> So while still in the "Home Sharing Turned Off" mode the sharing still 
>>>>>> seems
>>>>>> to be functioning - eg when another song is added to the "Kids Playlist" 
>>>>>> on
>>>>>> Peters PC, the Kids Macbooks update automatically to reflect the recent
>>>>>> addition - instantaneously.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> So provisionally this issue is resolved, but I am puzzled how in the
>>>>>> "Sharing Off" mode, the Kids Macbooks' remain in an apparent Sharing
>>>>>> capability state.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> If there are any closing comments that would be interesting, I am happy 
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> the moment for it to go down as a mystery as the result is I now have the
>>>>>> security I wanted.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Peter.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: wamug-ow...@wamug.org.au [mailto:wamug-ow...@wamug.org.au] On 
>>>>>> Behalf
>>>>>> Of Ronda Brown
>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, 29 January 2011 9:04 AM
>>>>>> To: WAMUG Mailing List
>>>>>> Subject: Re: iTunes sharing
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi Peter,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Under "SHARED" on the kids computers there should be an arrow beside
>>>>>> "Peter's Library"
>>>>>> Open the arrow and they should see "Playlists" . the "Kids Playlist" 
>>>>>> should
>>>>>> be showing there?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On the other computers that are sharing "Peter's Library" what do their
>>>>>> iTunes Preferences > Sharing have selected?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Ronni
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 29/01/2011, at 8:23 AM, Peter Crisp wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Ok, further to this. another test between the two Macbooks revealed the
>>>>>> same issue. The full library was visible despite selecting only one 
>>>>>> playlist
>>>>>> for visibility to others. at least that proves that Windows is not soley 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> culprit.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Peter..
>>>>>>> On 29/01/2011, at 8:05 AM, Peter Crisp wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Ok, Ronni and others with iTunes sharing experience. 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I have a Windows PC with just a small library on it - approx 40 songs.
>>>>>> From
>>>>>>>> this library, I created a playlist called "Kids Playlist" where I 
>>>>>>>> placed
>>>>>> 4
>>>>>>>> random songs so I could test the security around future sharing of my
>>>>>> 110GB+
>>>>>>>> iTunes library. All machines have the current versions of iTunes
>>>>>> installed
>>>>>>>> (V10.x.x.x).
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Currently both of the kids Macbooks can see the full library (40 songs)
>>>>>> when
>>>>>>>> selecting "Peters library" on 'their' Macbook itunes.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Can anyone give me any tips as to what might be the cause for this 
>>>>>>>> breach
>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>> security into my Windows PC iTunes library?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Peter..
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: Peter Crisp [mailto:petercr...@westnet.com.au] 
>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, 28 January 2011 9:16 PM
>>>>>>>> To: 'WAMUG Mailing List'
>>>>>>>> Subject: RE: iTunes sharing
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hi Ronni, thanks for your response. Yes I checked and I have just one
>>>>>> item
>>>>>>>> "kids playlist" checked in the list of items. It is the only item I 
>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>> ticked. The rest are blank, yet they can still see all content. It is
>>>>>> from a
>>>>>>>> Windows PC to a Macbook on the same network. 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I'll investigate further in the luxury of daytime with all computers
>>>>>>>> running. 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Thanks for your help again.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I'll report back with my findings.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Peter....
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: wamug-ow...@wamug.org.au [mailto:wamug-ow...@wamug.org.au] On
>>>>>> Behalf
>>>>>>>> Of Ronda Brown
>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, 28 January 2011 3:56 PM
>>>>>>>> To: WAMUG Mailing List
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: iTunes sharing
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 26/01/2011, at 5:14 PM, Peter Crisp wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hi all, i set up the iTunes sharing with the Windows PC, and 3 
>>>>>>>>> Macbooks
>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>> the house. it all works fine and i can see any of others' libraries IN
>>>>>> FULL.
>>>>>>>> which was fine to begin with but i wanted to regulate who could see 
>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>> other libraries in the house. so i went into Sharing on the Preferences
>>>>>> tab
>>>>>>>> and set the 'only share specific' and selected some specifics for 
>>>>>>>> sharing
>>>>>>>> only. i went to check what was visible fmor the others and could still
>>>>>> see
>>>>>>>> ALL content and not the 'as set' playlist for sharing by others. 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> what have i missed? 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Any tips appreciated.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Peter.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hi Peter,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I just noticed this has not been answered, must have slipped under
>>>>>> everyones
>>>>>>>> radar ;-)
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> In iTunes > Preferences > Sharing do you have selected:
>>>>>>>> Look for shared libraries
>>>>>>>> Share my library on my local network
>>>>>>>> Share selected playlists
>>>>>>>> Have you selected some 'playlists', 'Music Videos' etc?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I have my iTunes Preferences setup this way with 'Movies' selected and 
>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>> few
>>>>>>>> Playlists. Other computers on my Network only see what I have selected 
>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>> above.
>>>>>>>> They don't see everything in my Entire Library.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On the other computers under 'Shared' they see 'Movies' then 
>>>>>>>> 'Playlists'
>>>>>> -
>>>>>>>> Music Videos & the playlists I have selected.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>> Ronni
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 17" MacBook Pro  Intel Core i7
>>>>>>>> 2.66GHz / 8GB / 1067 MHz DDR3 / 500GB Serial ATA Drive @ 7200rpm
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> OS X 10.6.6 Snow Leopard
>>>>>>>> Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)
>>>>>>>> 
> 
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