Many thanks Ronni!! 



No, unfortunately, i am not using another mac, i am using westnet's webmail (on 
a windows machine - shock horror!). I usually use webmail for a couple of weeks 
(or till when webmail inbox is about to burst server limit) then i download 
everything onto the mac. 



And i dont really wanna clog up the ipad with emails. 



At the moment, i have my external portable WD hard drive, but like i said i 
have not backed up for a couple of weeks, so its a bit back dated. 



*heres to fingers crossed that next byte (which i always drive past on the way 
home from work) can get data off before me deciding what to do...* 



also if people have other backup suggestions, will look at it as well. 



regards 

Lynn 




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ronda Brown" <[email protected]> 
To: "WAMUG Mailing List" <[email protected]> 
Sent: Monday, 31 January, 2011 12:23:59 PM GMT +08:00 Beijing / Chongqing / 
Hong Kong / Urumqi 
Subject: Re: macbook late 2007 problem 

Hi Lynn, 


Its important to get your Data off the Hard Drive on the MacBook (if possible). 
If you have another Mac (which I presume you do as you are sending emails to 
WAMUG list). 
And an external FW Drive (or can get a l of one). 
I would suggest you install “Super Duper” or "Carbon Copy Cloner” on this 
‘Other Mac’, then: 


A. Have both computers connected to Power Outlet. 
B. Disconnect any drives attached to MacBook 
C. Connect an external FW drive to ‘Other Mac’ 


1. Connect your MB to ‘other Mac' via Firewire 400 cable. 
2. Boot the MB into “Target Disk Mode” … The ‘Other Mac’ is already booted up.  
The MB’s Hard Drive will appear on the Desktop of ‘Other Mac’ (if it’s not 
completely dead) 
3. Open 'Super Duper’ or ‘Carbon Copy Cloner' on ‘Other Mac’ and CLONE the MB 
Hard Drive to the External Drive attached to ‘Other Mac’. 


If you are unsure how to use Target Disk Mode: 
1. Make sure that the target computer (MacBook) is turned off. 
2. Plug in MacBook’s AC power adapter. 
3. Use a FireWire cable to connect the target computer (MB) to a host computer 
(Other Mac). The host computer can be powered on. 
4. Start up the target computer (MB) and immediately press and hold down the T 
key until the FireWire icon appears.  
The hard disk of the target computer should become available to the host 
computer and will likely appear on desktop. 
5. When you are finished copying files, locate the target computer's hard disk 
icon on the desktop of the host computer and drag it to the Trash or choose 
Eject (or Put Away) from the File menu. 
6. Press the target computer's power button to turn it off.  
7. Unplug the FireWire cable. 


Let us know how you get on please. 


Cheers, 
Ronni 




On 31/01/2011, at 11:40 AM, [email protected] wrote: 





Hi Ronni 


Many thanks for this info. 


Having read the article: 
"This program covers affected MacBook models for 3 years from their original 
date of purchase or until August 15, 2010 whichever provides longer coverage" 


Will mention this to the repair centre and see what they say. 


The last replacement was ol' trusty giving me the chimes when i tried booting 
her up and did not get very far. 


Regards 
Lynn 

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ronda Brown" < [email protected] > 
To: "WAMUG Mailing List" < [email protected] > 
Sent: Monday, 31 January, 2011 11:29:11 AM GMT +08:00 Beijing / Chongqing / 
Hong Kong / Urumqi 
Subject: Re: macbook late 2007 problem 

Hi Lynn, 


Firstly, I would suggest you don’t keep trying to boot-up MacBook. Shut it down 
and leave it alone until you can get the Data off the Hard Drive. 
The more you try to use the Hard Drive the less chance you have of being able 
to recover the Data. 


Secondly: Looking back through WAMUG Archives, I found you listed your MacBook 
details as: 


Mac Specs: 
Model Name:    MacBook 
Processor Name:    Intel Core 2 Duo 
Processor Speed:    2 GHz 
Number Of Processors:    1 
Total Number Of Cores:    2 
L2 Cache:    4 MB 
Memory:    1 GB 
Bus Speed:    667 MHz 
FireWire Bus Maximum Speed:    Up to 400 Mb/sec 
System Version:    Mac OS X 10.5.8 



Your MacBook ‘might’ be eligible for: 'MacBook Repair Extension Program for 
Hard Drive Issues' 


< http://www.apple.com/support/macbook/hd/repairextension/ > 


"Apple Admits MacBook Hard Drives Defective, Offers Free Repair Program” 
"Eligible models (black and white MacBooks sold between May 2006 and December 
2007) affected by the problem will be repaired at no cost.” 


"If Apple or an Apple Authorized Service Provider confirms that your hard drive 
is affected, Apple will replace it with a new hard drive.  
You will need to have the original OS installation discs that were shipped with 
your product in order to re-install your operating system, other applications, 
and any backed up data.” 


< 
http://gigaom.com/apple/apple-admits-macbook-hard-drives-defective-offers-free-repair-program/
 > 


Take your MacBook to an Apple Authorized Service Provider and ask them to check 
it. 


Cheers, 
Ronni 



On 31/01/2011, at 9:03 AM,   [email protected]   wrote: 





Many thanks Peter. 


I never do any repairs on my own, the nearest one to me is Next Byte on Stiling 
Highway. Was thinking of taking it to the Perth Apple store, but dont think 
they do repairs there... 


Worse comes to the worst, ill just have to replace ol' trusty. 


Regards 
Lynn 



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Peter Hinchliffe" < [email protected] > 
To: "WAMUG Mailing List" < [email protected] > 
Sent: Monday, 31 January, 2011 8:56:18 AM GMT +08:00 Beijing / Chongqing / Hong 
Kong / Urumqi 
Subject: Re: macbook late 2007 problem 




On 31/01/2011, at 7:33 AM,   [email protected]   wrote: 





hi 


Before I take ol' trusty - laptop that is - to the cleaners and before getting 
a new one - just wanting people's input/suggestions. 


Ol' trusty has had a hard drive replacement just before the original warranty 
expired, mid 2008. 


Before Saturday, ol' trusty has been making the weird sounds again, the ones 
like ol' trusty is about to die on me. 
Then on Saturday, ol' trusty died. When i tried booting her up again, she did 
not give me any chime sound, but she did give me a folder icon with a question 
mark in it. I tried booting her up a few times. A few times, she did ask me to 
select the hard drive to boot up from. I selected the only hard drive she has 
and then she freezes on me (blank light blue-grey screen). 


If i take her into the cleaners, would they be able to get stuff off her? I do 
have my backup, but its a couple of weeks old and I dont have my emails on 
there. 


Would a replacement hard drive do or do i have to replace an all new trusty? 


Ol' trusty's specs: 
Bought her mid to late 2007 - July/August if memory serves me correct 
13" white macbook 
80GB hard drive 
just updated OS 10.5.x a couple weeks ago 


Please ask if you need more information about ol' trusty. 


Many thanks and regards 
Lynn 



The folder with question mark fundamentally means that the computer cannot find 
a startup disk. It doesn't necessarily mean that the hard drive is completely 
dead (just extremely ill!). Try booting from the System Startup disk that came 
with your computer (You do have one, don't you?!)) and running Disk Utility 
from it. If it shows that the hard drive is available then you still have 
hope. Do not attempt to repair the drive without professional help if you're 
not sure of what you are doing. 


Certainly, a replacement drive is a viable option, and of course much cheaper 
than a new computer. It's also easy to do (at least it's not an iBook!). You 
must at all costs attempt to back up the data on the drive if at all possible 
before attempting any sort of repair. 





Peter Hinchliffe        Apwin Computer Services 
FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer 
Perth, Western Australia 
Phone (618) 9332 6482    Mob 0403 046 948 
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