The EyeTV editor does have a nice interface but as others have said it can't be 
edited frame by frame but the fine edit is almost always enough anyway.  MPEG 
Streamclip is a free editing program that will work on tv recorded from 
topfield but unfortunately you have to pay for the codec from Apple and the 
interface isn't as nice.

Ruben

> Arrr ok, my mistake ;o) Been a while since I looked at. But I generally found 
> it reasonable enough to cut out the end of a segment and the ads without 
> losing anything. So the frames must have been fairly reasonable.
> I think the last time I used it was about 7 or 8 months ago or more.
> Who gets time to watch tv anyway,...lol.
> 
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> Daniel
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> On 11/10/2011, at 10:00 PM, Alan Smith wrote:
> 
>> Don't think so.  Quote from the EyeTV Manual (p32)   "When Fine is chosen 
>> the thumbnail is at the beginning of groups of pictures, usually around 15 
>> frames, which represent approximately half a second of video."
>> 
>> Regard
>> Alan
>> 
>> On 11/10/2011, at 9:06 PM, Daniel Kerr wrote:
>> 
>> Correct. Not that I've used it for a while, but you could get it right down 
>> by changing the type of editing. I think it was either a slider or a "flick 
>> switch" or similar. Bottom left of Window I think from memory.
>> 
>> Kind regards
>> Daniel
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>> On 11/10/2011, at 9:03 PM, Brian Risbey wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Alan,
>>> 
>>> Last time when editing there was a 'fine setting' that was frame by frame 
>>> and you could see the blank frame between the advert ending and the first 
>>> frame of the show, very simple and accurate. 
>>> Anyway off to improve my poor hills tv reception, with a couple more 
>>> antenna amps and use my MacMini Server and my EyeTv and maybe an extra one.
>>> Thank you everyone for your input.
>>> 
>>> Brian
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On 11/10/2011, at 19:37, Alan Smith <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>>>> "The EyeTv Editor allows for frame by frame editing very effective.
>>>> 
>>>> As a very new user of EyeTV  I don't think this is true.  Certainly a very 
>>>> effective editor but it seems to only select within 0.5 second which is 
>>>> say 12 frames.  Probably not a significant issue in most cases!
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers, Alan
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 11/10/2011, at 6:34 PM, Brian Risbey wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Thank you Ray,
>>>> 
>>>> I do use a MacBook Pro as my main computer and a Mac Mini Server for the 
>>>> Tv. We live in a dodgy signal area in the hills and my next excuse is it 
>>>> is easier …to use the Toppy...
>>>> 
>>>> So I may look into a third splitter and separate the aerial to a third and 
>>>> fourth and use the MacMini for important shows.
>>>> 
>>>> The EyeTv Editor allows for frame by frame editing very effective.
>>>> 
>>>> Thank You again, Ray.
>>>> 
>>>> Brian
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 11/10/2011, at 1:53 PM, Ray Forma wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Brian,
>>>> 
>>>> just out of interest, if you have eyeTV, why do you then use a Topfield to 
>>>> record TV? To me that's a bit like using Windows to create files to merely 
>>>> view on a Mac.
>>>> 
>>>> You don't mention what type of mpg file the Topfield stores, but I assume 
>>>> it's mpeg-2, which is the native transport stream Australia uses for 
>>>> DVB/T. 
>>>> 
>>>> The files that eyeTV creates when it records a broadcast are not really 
>>>> files; they are packages containing about 6 files. If you open such an 
>>>> eyeTV package, you will find the actual recording is a file named 
>>>> something like '000000001226787d.mpg', and it's an mpeg-2 file.
>>>> 
>>>> If you use eyeTV to open and play such a bare file it will, but it won't 
>>>> offer to edit it.
>>>> 
>>>> I therefore suggest the following solutions:
>>>> 
>>>> 1 Use eyeTV to both record and edit your videos and put the Topfield in 
>>>> the Quokka.
>>>> 
>>>> 2 Use the video editor in an app like Toast or iMovie
>>>> 
>>>> 3 Play the video out of the Topfield and into the analogue port of an 
>>>> eyeTV hybrid. Then edit it. As this will take 'real time' I wish you luck 
>>>> with a 3 hour movie from commercial TV.
>>>> 
>>>> Our one-and-only TV is a MacMini with an eyeTV stick, so I do everything 
>>>> with eyeTV. Others therefore may have brighter ideas.
>>>> 
>>>> On 11/10/2011, at 12:54 PM, Brian Risbey wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Has anyone used EyeTv's editor to edit other video formats?
>>>>> 
>>>>> I use a Topfield to record tv and would like to edit out the ads, 
>>>>> Topfield makes mpg files and the EyeTv editor won't edit them. I could my 
>>>>> copy of MPEGStream Clip, but it is not as accurate.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I can convert them to other formats, but which one?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thank you for your thoughts,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Brian
>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> 
>>>> Ray Forma
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