I was interested in what you have been saying about changing flags for the Used 
Library. I now do not mind this hidden Library as it is seldom used. Can we 
changer the main system library so that is is invisible? I never use this- I 
know the system does but it does not need our eyes. If I could hide stuff from 
my eyes it would be great
I do have colored icons in sidebar but not in iTunes or mail and in some other 
instances Can we colorise all?
tom samson
On 26/10/2011, at 8:09 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:

> Hi John,
> 
> I’m ‘starting’ to like certain things about Lion, I think it’s mainly getting 
> used to a somewhat ‘different’ operating system than Snow Leopard.
> Similar, but different in many aspects. I can see the benefits of some 
> changes, others not so much.
> The more I work in Lion, the more I will come to like it I’m sure. Change 
> sometimes takes a little time to get used to, especially when I thought Snow 
> Leopard was the greatest Operating System of our time ;-)
> 
> I find Lion is much faster and better installed on my MacBook Pro than the 
> external FW drive (even though it was 800FW connection). I have done the 
> ‘tweaks’ to get coloured icons back in finder sidebar windows and iTunes, I 
> don’t like all the grey of Lion, picking up coloured icons is much quicker to 
> see, especially with my eyes.
> 
> I’m getting used to the new Mail in Lion (but hope to change the grey 
> Mailboxes (or Apple does, as millions of people want colour back), I have 
> thought of a way but don’t really want to mess in the Resources folder ). I 
> would not recommend anyone doing this!
> 
> So probably, other than the grey of Lion I’m finding it is worth the upgrade 
> from Snow Leopard. I have not had any issues or problems with Lion. But, I 
> did make sure before installing it on my work computer that all my 
> applications worked and I did all the preparation, also a bootable backup of 
> my Snow Leopard system before installing Lion on my MacBook Pro (just in case 
> I ever wanted to go back to SL).
> 
> Kind Regards,
> 
> Ronni
> 
> On 26/10/2011, at 7:30 AM, John Thompson wrote:
> 
>> Thanks Ronni,
>>      That is the reply I was hoping for.  Now to give Lion a go and see what 
>> happens.  By the way, how do you find Lion now it is installed on your main 
>> computer?
>> 
>> Regards
>> 
>> John
>> On 25/10/2011, at 5:37 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi John,
>>> 
>>> Sorry for the delay in getting back to you. Also I had misunderstood your 
>>> question, so my previous rushed reply probably made no sense to you ;-)
>>> Especially the bit about Time Machine backup in Lion not being backward 
>>> compatible with Snow Leopard.
>>> 
>>>>>> One further question; when I do proceed as you advise, will I still be 
>>>>>> able to return to Snow Leopard and use mail as normal?
>>> 
>>> I thought you had installed Lion on your Mac Mini and wanted to downgrade 
>>> (Go Back) to Snow Leopard on your Mac mini.
>>> If that had been the case, NO you can't revert to Snow Leopard Mail from 
>>> Lion Mail.
>>> 
>>> This is because Lion’s version of Mail uses a different format for its 
>>> message database than older versions.
>>> It’s not backward compatible.
>>> That’s why when you first open Mail in Lion OS X 10.7, it upgrades the 
>>> format of your messages.
>>> 
>>> Because of the above, You would not be able to import 'Lion Mail' back to 
>>> 'Snow Leopard Mail' if you decide to downgrade.
>>> Lion modifies the Mail files so that you cannot go back to Snow Leopard 
>>> Mail.
>>> 
>>> But, as you have Lion on an external FW Drive and Snow Leopard on your Mac 
>>> mini.
>>> And if you have IMAP Mail Accounts  (or a POP Accounts that are set to 
>>> 'keep messages on the server' for a period of time) so you will be able to 
>>> download the email messages again in Snow Leopard Mail,  that you would 
>>> have downloaded when ’testing out’  Mail in Lion.
>>> You could use both Mail versions of Apple Mail … Mail in Snow Leopard on 
>>> Mac mini, and Mail in Lion on the external drive.
>>> 
>>> That is what I did for a time while I was testing Lion on an external FW 
>>> Drive. Before I eventually installed Lion on my MacBook Pro.
>>> 
>>> As long as you don’t have to ‘Import’ any mail from Lion Mail back in to 
>>> Snow Leopard Mail you can use both.
>>> 
>>> But, make sure you do have Mail Accounts that you can download your 
>>> messages more than once. 
>>> If you only have POP Accounts that are set to "Remove copy from server 
>>> after retrieving a message - ‘immediately"  … you would lose some messages.
>>> 
>>> Hope that has answered your question correctly. Post back to list if not.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Ronni
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 24/10/2011, at 8:40 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi John,
>>>> 
>>>> Just a very quick answer as I’m rushing out to a client. I’ll explain more 
>>>> fully in another Subject heading to WAMUG later.
>>>> 
>>>> Your query "after installing Lion can you go back to Snow Leopard”?
>>>> Well, you can, there are a few things you need to be aware of though. 
>>>> You would need a ‘cloned backup of your pre-Lion drive’.
>>>> 
>>>> Once Lion writes to a Time Machine backup, it's not backward compatible 
>>>> with Snow Leopard.
>>>> Migration Assistant under Snow Leopard will no longer recognise the backup.
>>>> 
>>>> Gotta rush, will get back to you later.
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Ronni
>>>> 
>>>> On 24/10/2011, at 8:19 AM, John Thompson wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks again for your info Ronni.  At this stage I have not gone any 
>>>>> further, not being in a terrible hurry to venture down the Lion track 
>>>>> although it obviously has benefits.
>>>>> One further question; when I do proceed as you advise, will I still be 
>>>>> able to return to Snow Leopard and use mail as normal?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Regards
>>>>> 
>>>>> John
>>>>> On 23/10/2011, at 1:32 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi John,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> After you have reset the file and you open Mail, let it upgrade the 
>>>>>> format and your messages.
>>>>>> It can take awhile before Mail is ready to use in Lion.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> In Lion to show the Users Home Library:
>>>>>> Just press and hold the “option/alt” key, and you can choose  “Go to 
>>>>>> Library” in the Go menu of the Finder.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> If you wish to have the user library show permanently:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Show User ~/Library in OS X Lion:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Launch Terminal from Spotlight or Launchpad -> Utilities, and enter the
>>>>>> following command to show or hide the directory:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> chflags nohidden ~/Library/
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The users Library folder will immediately become visible again. 
>>>>>> ====
>>>>>> Reverting this back to the standard Lion setting is simple too:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hide User ~/Library in OS X Lion (default setting)
>>>>>> This returns to the default setting of hiding the user Library directory:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> chflags hidden ~/Library
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Changes take effect immediately again, and Library becomes invisible to 
>>>>>> the user. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Ronni
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 17" MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt"
>>>>>> 2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> OS X 10.7.2 Lion
>>>>>> Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)
>>>>>> On 23/10/2011, at 1:14 PM, John Thompson wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I have finally bitten the bullet and downloaded 10.7.2 from the App 
>>>>>>> Store.  to be safe, I have installed it on a clean external drive, 
>>>>>>> performing all the required tasks.
>>>>>>> After booting from the external drive, the first item to resist opening 
>>>>>>> was Mail.  Received information that I didn't have correct privileges 
>>>>>>> or some such message.
>>>>>>> Followed the info given - go to 'external 
>>>>>>> drive'/users/myname/library/mail/envelope index, get info and reset to 
>>>>>>> read/write.  Unfortunately, library does not appear 
>>>>>>> in this location so have no idea where to go from here.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Any ideas?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> John Thompson
>>>>>>> WAMUG #861
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Mac Mini
>>>>>>> 2.53 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
>>>>>>> 4 GB 1067 MHz DDR3
>>>>>>> Mac OS X 10.6.8
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> [email protected]
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