I was interested in what you have been saying about changing flags for the Used Library. I now do not mind this hidden Library as it is seldom used. Can we changer the main system library so that is is invisible? I never use this- I know the system does but it does not need our eyes. If I could hide stuff from my eyes it would be great I do have colored icons in sidebar but not in iTunes or mail and in some other instances Can we colorise all? tom samson On 26/10/2011, at 8:09 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:
> Hi John, > > I’m ‘starting’ to like certain things about Lion, I think it’s mainly getting > used to a somewhat ‘different’ operating system than Snow Leopard. > Similar, but different in many aspects. I can see the benefits of some > changes, others not so much. > The more I work in Lion, the more I will come to like it I’m sure. Change > sometimes takes a little time to get used to, especially when I thought Snow > Leopard was the greatest Operating System of our time ;-) > > I find Lion is much faster and better installed on my MacBook Pro than the > external FW drive (even though it was 800FW connection). I have done the > ‘tweaks’ to get coloured icons back in finder sidebar windows and iTunes, I > don’t like all the grey of Lion, picking up coloured icons is much quicker to > see, especially with my eyes. > > I’m getting used to the new Mail in Lion (but hope to change the grey > Mailboxes (or Apple does, as millions of people want colour back), I have > thought of a way but don’t really want to mess in the Resources folder ). I > would not recommend anyone doing this! > > So probably, other than the grey of Lion I’m finding it is worth the upgrade > from Snow Leopard. I have not had any issues or problems with Lion. But, I > did make sure before installing it on my work computer that all my > applications worked and I did all the preparation, also a bootable backup of > my Snow Leopard system before installing Lion on my MacBook Pro (just in case > I ever wanted to go back to SL). > > Kind Regards, > > Ronni > > On 26/10/2011, at 7:30 AM, John Thompson wrote: > >> Thanks Ronni, >> That is the reply I was hoping for. Now to give Lion a go and see what >> happens. By the way, how do you find Lion now it is installed on your main >> computer? >> >> Regards >> >> John >> On 25/10/2011, at 5:37 PM, Ronda Brown wrote: >> >>> Hi John, >>> >>> Sorry for the delay in getting back to you. Also I had misunderstood your >>> question, so my previous rushed reply probably made no sense to you ;-) >>> Especially the bit about Time Machine backup in Lion not being backward >>> compatible with Snow Leopard. >>> >>>>>> One further question; when I do proceed as you advise, will I still be >>>>>> able to return to Snow Leopard and use mail as normal? >>> >>> I thought you had installed Lion on your Mac Mini and wanted to downgrade >>> (Go Back) to Snow Leopard on your Mac mini. >>> If that had been the case, NO you can't revert to Snow Leopard Mail from >>> Lion Mail. >>> >>> This is because Lion’s version of Mail uses a different format for its >>> message database than older versions. >>> It’s not backward compatible. >>> That’s why when you first open Mail in Lion OS X 10.7, it upgrades the >>> format of your messages. >>> >>> Because of the above, You would not be able to import 'Lion Mail' back to >>> 'Snow Leopard Mail' if you decide to downgrade. >>> Lion modifies the Mail files so that you cannot go back to Snow Leopard >>> Mail. >>> >>> But, as you have Lion on an external FW Drive and Snow Leopard on your Mac >>> mini. >>> And if you have IMAP Mail Accounts (or a POP Accounts that are set to >>> 'keep messages on the server' for a period of time) so you will be able to >>> download the email messages again in Snow Leopard Mail, that you would >>> have downloaded when ’testing out’ Mail in Lion. >>> You could use both Mail versions of Apple Mail … Mail in Snow Leopard on >>> Mac mini, and Mail in Lion on the external drive. >>> >>> That is what I did for a time while I was testing Lion on an external FW >>> Drive. Before I eventually installed Lion on my MacBook Pro. >>> >>> As long as you don’t have to ‘Import’ any mail from Lion Mail back in to >>> Snow Leopard Mail you can use both. >>> >>> But, make sure you do have Mail Accounts that you can download your >>> messages more than once. >>> If you only have POP Accounts that are set to "Remove copy from server >>> after retrieving a message - ‘immediately" … you would lose some messages. >>> >>> Hope that has answered your question correctly. Post back to list if not. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Ronni >>> >>> >>> On 24/10/2011, at 8:40 AM, Ronda Brown wrote: >>> >>>> Hi John, >>>> >>>> Just a very quick answer as I’m rushing out to a client. I’ll explain more >>>> fully in another Subject heading to WAMUG later. >>>> >>>> Your query "after installing Lion can you go back to Snow Leopard”? >>>> Well, you can, there are a few things you need to be aware of though. >>>> You would need a ‘cloned backup of your pre-Lion drive’. >>>> >>>> Once Lion writes to a Time Machine backup, it's not backward compatible >>>> with Snow Leopard. >>>> Migration Assistant under Snow Leopard will no longer recognise the backup. >>>> >>>> Gotta rush, will get back to you later. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Ronni >>>> >>>> On 24/10/2011, at 8:19 AM, John Thompson wrote: >>>> >>>>> Thanks again for your info Ronni. At this stage I have not gone any >>>>> further, not being in a terrible hurry to venture down the Lion track >>>>> although it obviously has benefits. >>>>> One further question; when I do proceed as you advise, will I still be >>>>> able to return to Snow Leopard and use mail as normal? >>>>> >>>>> Regards >>>>> >>>>> John >>>>> On 23/10/2011, at 1:32 PM, Ronda Brown wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi John, >>>>>> >>>>>> After you have reset the file and you open Mail, let it upgrade the >>>>>> format and your messages. >>>>>> It can take awhile before Mail is ready to use in Lion. >>>>>> >>>>>> In Lion to show the Users Home Library: >>>>>> Just press and hold the “option/alt” key, and you can choose “Go to >>>>>> Library” in the Go menu of the Finder. >>>>>> >>>>>> If you wish to have the user library show permanently: >>>>>> >>>>>> Show User ~/Library in OS X Lion: >>>>>> >>>>>> Launch Terminal from Spotlight or Launchpad -> Utilities, and enter the >>>>>> following command to show or hide the directory: >>>>>> >>>>>> chflags nohidden ~/Library/ >>>>>> >>>>>> The users Library folder will immediately become visible again. >>>>>> ==== >>>>>> Reverting this back to the standard Lion setting is simple too: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hide User ~/Library in OS X Lion (default setting) >>>>>> This returns to the default setting of hiding the user Library directory: >>>>>> >>>>>> chflags hidden ~/Library >>>>>> >>>>>> Changes take effect immediately again, and Library becomes invisible to >>>>>> the user. >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>> Ronni >>>>>> >>>>>> 17" MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt" >>>>>> 2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD >>>>>> >>>>>> OS X 10.7.2 Lion >>>>>> Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance) >>>>>> On 23/10/2011, at 1:14 PM, John Thompson wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I have finally bitten the bullet and downloaded 10.7.2 from the App >>>>>>> Store. to be safe, I have installed it on a clean external drive, >>>>>>> performing all the required tasks. >>>>>>> After booting from the external drive, the first item to resist opening >>>>>>> was Mail. Received information that I didn't have correct privileges >>>>>>> or some such message. >>>>>>> Followed the info given - go to 'external >>>>>>> drive'/users/myname/library/mail/envelope index, get info and reset to >>>>>>> read/write. Unfortunately, library does not appear >>>>>>> in this location so have no idea where to go from here. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Any ideas? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> John Thompson >>>>>>> WAMUG #861 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Mac Mini >>>>>>> 2.53 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo >>>>>>> 4 GB 1067 MHz DDR3 >>>>>>> Mac OS X 10.6.8 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> [email protected] > > -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- > Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> > Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> > Settings & Unsubscribe - > <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> Settings & Unsubscribe - <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug>

