Got it!   Thanks.

Bill
On 21/11/2011, at 2:49 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:

> Bill,
> 
> You must have “Empty Trash securely” selected in Finder > Preferences > 
> Advanced.
> DON’T select “Empty Trash Securely” take the tick out of it.
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> 
> On 21/11/2011, at 2:41 PM, Bill Parker wrote:
> 
>> Well, that was something I had looked at but under "About Finder" I only 
>> have the secure option.  Presently getting Combo to install so that might 
>> change.
>> 
>> Bill
>> On 21/11/2011, at 10:05 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Bill,
>>> 
>>> What do you mean the only option is “Secure Empty Trash”?
>>> 
>>> You should use “Empty Trash” either by ‘Click on Trash icon > "Empty Trash”
>>> or in the Menu Bar -  Finder > "Empty Trash”.
>>> 
>>> Don’t you have these options?
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Ronni
>>> 
>>> On 21/11/2011, at 9:46 AM, Bill Parker wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Ronni,
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I think your first explanation is most likely. (I use secure empty because 
>>>> its the only option there)  I'll give the combo process a go later.  But 
>>>> at least I am clearer about what is going on, and thanks.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Bill
>>>> On 21/11/2011, at 9:12 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Ok Bill,
>>>>> 
>>>>> What are all the files in the trash?  
>>>>> Do you normally use ‘Secure Empty Trash’?
>>>>> In addition to your Home/Trash folder, there is a hidden .Trash folder at 
>>>>> the top level of your hard drive, and also hidden .Trashes folders on 
>>>>> each of your external drives, each containing a subfolder for every user 
>>>>> account on your Mac. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Even if they are all empty, the hidden folders themselves are all deleted 
>>>>> when you 'Secure Empty', which could account for the increased number of 
>>>>> items that are being reported.
>>>>> 
>>>>> If the above is not the case, and you are now finding more items in your 
>>>>> Trash, (that you have not physically placed there), there has to be 
>>>>> something causing this to happen.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Have you installed new software?
>>>>> Do you have ‘Growl’ installed? Why I ask is if you do.
>>>>> Every time you log in to or start up your Mac, and you find that your 
>>>>> Trash contains a Recovered items folder, which, in turn, contains a bunch 
>>>>> of .growlRegDict files.
>>>>> The most likely cause of this is that you have more than one copy of 
>>>>> Growl installed. Look in both of these locations:
>>>>> 
>>>>>   •       The PreferencePanes folder in the Library folder in your Home 
>>>>> folder
>>>>>   •       The PreferencePanes folder in the Library folder at the root 
>>>>> level of your hard disk
>>>>> 
>>>>> Current versions of Growl only allow you to install it at the latter 
>>>>> location, but older versions let you choose either one. 
>>>>> So, if you upgraded from an older version of Growl, you may still have it 
>>>>> in your Home Library.
>>>>> The safest solution is to look in both locations, and delete whichever 
>>>>> Growl is older.                           
>>>>> This will probably be the one in your Home Library.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Might not be a bad idea to run the Combo OS X 10.6.8 over your system.
>>>>> Download the OS X 10.6.8 Update Combo from here: 
>>>>> <http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1399>
>>>>> Run the Install, 
>>>>> Then run “Repair Permissions” 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Ronni
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 21/11/2011, at 8:42 AM, Bill Parker wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Yep, that seems to be what is happening.  And I'd say some months.   
>>>>>> Mostly keep the laptop running.  As to software upgrade  - maybe it was 
>>>>>> 10.6.7 to 8  but not sure.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Bill
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 21/11/2011, at 8:05 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi Bill,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> So you are not ‘physically’ putting these items in the Trash?
>>>>>>> Do they just appear in the trash after a restart?
>>>>>>> When did this start happening … after an upgrade or installation of 
>>>>>>> software?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> After a restart you can often see in the trash “Recovered Items”, is 
>>>>>>> theis what you are referring to?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> Ronni
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 21/11/2011, at 7:48 AM, Bill Parker wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Ronni see below.
>>>>>>>> On 21/11/2011, at 7:37 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hi Bill,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> How long since you deleted the trash previously?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Day before yesterday.   The high fie number occurs quite frequently.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Have you deleted files from Time Machine via Finder?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Negative
>>>>>>>>> Or have an external drive connected or disconnected that you have 
>>>>>>>>> deleted files from?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Negative
>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>> Ronni
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 17" MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt"
>>>>>>>>> 2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> OS X 10.7.2 Lion
>>>>>>>>> Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 21/11/2011, at 6:55 AM, Bill Parker wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Robin,
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Files are being deleted - but the quantity far exceeds how many I 
>>>>>>>>>> can see listed.   The site is providing good info.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Bill
>>>>>>>>>> On 20/11/2011, at 9:23 PM, Robin Belford wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> I have experienced problems like you describe.
>>>>>>>>>>> I found my solution here.
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.thexlab.com/faqs/trash.html
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> hope this helps
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> robin
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On 20/11/2011, at 9:15 PM, Bill Parker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Folks,
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> I want to empty my trash, but cannot. It says it contains 1285 
>>>>>>>>>>>> files but I can only count 53.  I have tried either remove all of 
>>>>>>>>>>>> remove unlocked. Same result.   I have in the recent file clunts 
>>>>>>>>>>>> of 2 - 3000 items when visibly at least there is no such quantity 
>>>>>>>>>>>> there.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Turned machine off and re-start. No avail.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Mac book pro 10.6.8
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Bill
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