Hi Alex, Your opening sentence is not strictly correct unless it refers to your own email, in which case you are being a bit too hard on yourself. :-) I was pointing out that iCloud information is confidential in that Apple undertakes to keep this information confidential. Security is a whole other question. Storing any information on a server has attendant risks but then so does storing any information on a computer. For that matter writing information on piece of paper and locking it in a file cabinet has attendant risks. In order to get anything done one must weigh up the value of ones data, the cost of someone else getting their hands on your data, the likelihood that someone who could use your data knows where it is, and then the opportunity they have to get the data even if they do know where it is. Needless to say, the more valuable the data, the more expensive the precautions required to protect it.
If you have nation secrets in your address book iCloud is probably not for you. But then if the information is extremely valuable, one should take extra steps to store one's computer in a safe place and perhaps not connect to the internet at all. This is a judgement we all have to make and applies equally well to doing our banking online, or buying bicycle parts from English distributors. I agree that caution is probably in order with iCloud so that Michael, for instance, may do well not the turn this service on -- it is a setting in preferences that is off by default. On the other hand, for the run of the mill Mac user it is a great boon. Apple is unlikely to loose the confidence of its enourmous customer base just to make public the phone numbers of my friends so I am not overly concerned in this case. Cheers, Carlo On 17/02/2012, at 23:25 , Alexander Hartner wrote: > Hi Michael, > > This is complete non-sense. Since the data is stored in the cloud it is > stored most likely somewhere overseas. As such it falls into the jurisdiction > of somebody else. Since we don't even know where the data is stored the > end-user has little idea of who else has access to the data. There are data > centre administrators which may have access to the data for example. I am not > even going to touch somebody submitting a subpoena for the data, so no point > hiding your uncle's vinies pizza joint in the cloud either. Also who is to > say that the privacy policy will never change. They might decide it would be > nice to integrate with Facebook for example, who is to say. Then there is > data retention. > > So even though you might thing that just because you use your personal ID, > does not make it personal. > > If you want to sync contacts take a look at www.addressbookserver.com. It > lets you select which groups and calendars you want to sync, so you don't > have to expose your mistress's email to your wife ;-). > > Alex > > On 17/02/2012, at 14:40 , cm wrote: > >> Hi Michael, >> >> It is quite possible that regulations rule out the use of iCloud in your >> particular case, but just to clarify the issue for those who may be >> following the thread, iCloud is confidential. The information is shared only >> among computers logged in with your Apple ID. With a strong password that >> means only you can access the information. >> >> Cheers, >> Carlo >> >> On 17/02/2012, at 14:27 , Michael Hawkins wrote: >> >>> Hi Carlo, >>> >>> My occupation requires that I keep a lot of information confidential >>> including names and addresses. As a result programs such as iCloud are of >>> no use to me. >>> >>> What I would like is for Mail to be better suited to business use. >>> >>> Spotlight is a boon, but that was also the case before Lion was released. >>> >>> I like the idea of having a record of text messages. >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Michael. >>> >>> >>> On 17/02/2012, at 1:46 PM, cm wrote: >>> >>>> I can't say I agree with that assessment. I find Lion to be a pleasure to >>>> use. Apple seems to have taken the approach that everything in the OS had >>>> to justify its existence; things were not done in a particular way merely >>>> because they had always been done that way. I find the interface features >>>> useful and the numerous other improvements behind the scenes, such as >>>> memory management and security enhancements, make things easier without >>>> any change required by the user. >>>> >>>> I am looking forward with anticipation to some of the improvements in >>>> Mountain Lion. Some appear to have been left out of Lion merely because >>>> the developers ran out of time before the release date. Take Air Play >>>> Mirroring. A friend of mine has only an iPhone and a MacBook Air. I demoed >>>> my Apple TV for him showing Air Play Mirroring with an iPad -- but >>>> unfortunately I could not at the time recommend that he buy an Apple TV >>>> because mirroring was not then available on OS X. It soon will be. >>>> >>>> Also it will be possible to send text messages (SMS style) from your >>>> computer to any iPhone user, or receive text messages from iPhone users on >>>> your computer. That is a feature that I have actively sought, looking at >>>> third party software for the purpose. More to have a record of the text >>>> messages than for any other reason. Phone companies must be cursing the >>>> new unified Messaging app in Mountain Lion. >>>> >>>> Lion also introduced iCloud which is a revelation. I actually as I was >>>> typing this received a call asking for a phone number that I had entered >>>> an hour ago on my iPhone. I brought up Address Book and there it was! >>>> >>>> I have many more Lion features I would like to mention but some >>>> programming work beckons. :-) >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Carlo >>>> >>>> On 17/02/2012, at 11:19 , Michael Hawkins wrote: >>>> >>>>> Lion is a pain in the butt to use. >>>>> >>>>> I hope that Mountain Lion isn't a more powerful pain. >>>>> >>>>> Michael Hawkins. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 17/02/2012, at 10:54 AM, Alexander Hartner wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Daniel, >>>>>> >>>>>> Might want to take a look at this : www.addressbookserver.com >>>>>> >>>>>> Alex >>>>>> >>>>>> On 16/02/2012, at 22:29 , Daniel Kerr wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> One thing I'd like to see them "fix" in Lion/Mountain Lion/iCloud is >>>>>>> Address Book syncing. >>>>>>> When you synced via iTunes with Address Book, you had the ability to >>>>>>> choose "Groups" that would sync, and not just sync everything. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> What this meant was that a couple could use 1 iMac computer, have the >>>>>>> same address book but with all the contacts in one. They could then >>>>>>> have a Group for person A and a group for Person B. Then when you >>>>>>> synced via iTunes Person A would get just their group, and Person >>>>>>> Bwould get just their group. >>>>>>> eg, Wife gets her contacts, Husband gets his. And then if they wanted a >>>>>>> combined "group" eg Medical, Household etc. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Now it's all or nothing. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Mind you , I must admit I haven't looked into further if there is a >>>>>>> workaround,... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You can have this feature if you USB sync with iTunes, but not with >>>>>>> iCloud sync. So yeh,...strange. lol. :) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Kind regards >>>>>>> Daniel >>>>>>> --- >>>>>>> Daniel Kerr >>>>>>> MacWizardry >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Phone: 0414 795 960 >>>>>>> Email: <daniel AT macwizardry.com.au> >>>>>>> Web: <http://www.macwizardry.com.au> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> **For everything Macintosh** >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 16/02/2012, at 10:18 PM, cm wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Things are ramping up at Apple! (sorry) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Mountain Lion has at least one feature I was hoping for, and that is >>>>>>>> syncing with iCloud from OS X. Now changes in Numbers and Pages >>>>>>>> documents will be pushed to iOS iCloud documents. I am also waiting >>>>>>>> keenly for a Mac OS X version of iBooks but no sign of it yet. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The developer site is closed right now while they are, no doubt, >>>>>>>> setting things up for the release, but I will grab a copy tomorrow. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> By the way, I was wondering how the cat taxonomy could top Lion. It >>>>>>>> seems they have done that nicely with Mountain Lion -- it is >>>>>>>> reminiscent of the Leopard / Snow Leopard release pairing. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>> Carlo >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 16/02/2012, at 22:00 , Daniel Kerr wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Just when you thought you were getting used to Lion,...Apple have >>>>>>>>> released the first Developer release of Mountain Lion! >>>>>>>>> And it's ready to gain more iOS features,...and more,.... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Read more here:- >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> <http://www.macrumors.com/2012/02/16/apple-releases-first-developer-preview-of-os-x-mountain-lion-public-launch-in-late-summer/> >>>>>>>>> TinyURL - <http://tinyurl.com/6s3kz89> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Enjoy >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Kind regards >>>>>>>>> Daniel >>>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>>> Daniel Kerr >>>>>>>>> MacWizardry >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Phone: 0414 795 960 >>>>>>>>> Email: <daniel AT macwizardry.com.au> >>>>>>>>> Web: <http://www.macwizardry.com.au> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> **For everything Macintosh** >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- >>>>>>>>> Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> >>>>>>>>> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> >>>>>>>>> Settings & Unsubscribe - >>>>>>>>> <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- >>>>>>>> Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> >>>>>>>> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> >>>>>>>> Settings & Unsubscribe - >>>>>>>> <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- >>>>>>> Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> >>>>>>> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> >>>>>>> Settings & Unsubscribe - >>>>>>> <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- >>>>>> Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> >>>>>> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> >>>>>> Settings & Unsubscribe - >>>>>> <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug> >>>>> >>>>> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- >>>>> Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> >>>>> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> >>>>> Settings & Unsubscribe - >>>>> <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug> >>>> >>>> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- >>>> Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> >>>> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> >>>> Settings & Unsubscribe - >>>> <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug> >>> >>> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- >>> Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> >>> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> >>> Settings & Unsubscribe - >>> <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug> >> >> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- >> Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> >> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> >> Settings & Unsubscribe - >> <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug> > > -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- > Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> > Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> > Settings & Unsubscribe - > <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> Settings & Unsubscribe - <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug>
