Wasn't going to reply back to this,...but I think I'll add my bit, then be done with it. (Thanks Stuart and Ronni).
The survey was modified a while back, so really only had TWO questions that had to be answered. Were you a paid member or not, and Do you attend the meetings. The rest could be completely left alone and not answered. As the others had mentioned, it wasn't compulsory. No was told they had to do it, people were just asked if they wouldn't mind doing it so we could get some feedback for WAMUG in general. Not all the items are mutually exclusive. There are three parts to it. Members/Non Members. People that come to the meetings/People that don't. Mailing List Members/Non Maling list members. And it's not to say that all Financial members come to the meetings. Or that all mailing list members are financial. So the best "canvas" was the mailing list to get feedback. For anything WAMUG. Be it the mailing list, the meetings, whatever..... We created a short (Free) survey which only gave us 10 questions, without paying a silly fee per year to cover it. Of which we can do more free surveys if we so choose. Once it was "approved" it then went to list. And the object of it was to get feedback. Be it to help the meetings, the mailing list,..whatever. Just WAMUG in general. Seeing as WAMUG is not one sole thing, but a combination of "lots of things" (Meetings and the mailing list being the two main things,...well, and Committee you could say,..lol). It's strange that when I first posted under the [ADMIN] email address on the 24th February, there was nothing really mentioned about it, but when asked about it at the meeting for some who hadn't seen it and I said I'd repost it via my name, it's created more "feedback" on list. Does the Admin post get missed, or just wasn't seen at the time for the queries now.... I'm just curious..... By all means we're open to feedback about these sort of things. We rarely post or "disturb" the list from the committee side of things, bar the reminders for meetings or events, but we also have to try and "expand" WAMUG in general as best we can. So we rely on feedback and ideas from everyone. Hence the idea of an anonymous survey. Since posted we've had the number increase to 46. so it's certainly doing what we intended. Had it gone to "just people who come to the meetings" this would be a lot less. Had it gone to "just financial members", this may have been less as well. But to combine all three "groups" (mailing list, meeting attendees, financial members...and so on), then we get a lot more replies/cross-groups/different opinions for the whole thing. Apologies if this comes across wrongly, or harshly, as it's not meant to. I'm just trying to clarify the underlying purpose of what the Survey was for. And why. I'm sure I could waffle on, as I can do sometimes, but I think I covered what I wanted to say :o)) I won't say any more on the subject now,... /closes mouth and sits back in his corner to finish his other work.. Enjoy! Roll on iPad3/iPadHD / AppleTV / $35 new accessory etc,.... Kind regards Daniel --- Daniel Kerr MacWizardry Phone: 0414 795 960 Email: <daniel AT macwizardry.com.au> Web: <http://www.macwizardry.com.au> **For everything Macintosh** On 07/03/2012, at 9:29 PM, cm wrote: > Hi all, > > I should just add that many of the respondents have complained about the > assumptions in some of the questions that you can or do attend meetings and > the fact that some compulsory answer do not apply to some respondents. Please > do you best to submit the survey rather than just giving up. I think this is > a learning experience for all of us and part of what we learn will be how to > do better surveys. :-) > > For a question that is not applicable to you but requires and answer, just > select any response and note in a comment somewhere that this answer does not > apply. The submission of the survey may be computer controlled, but it is the > human volunteers of the committee that will try to interpret and act on what > you would like to see happen. > > Remember the surveys are anonymous so feel free to have your say! > > Cheers, > Carlo > > > On 07/03/2012, at 19:58 , Ronda Brown wrote: > >> Excellent Stuart, I won't even add anything to your post! >> >> Well, Other than this... The survey was designed to get feedback... Feedback >> nothing more, nothing less! >> If it was only sent to financial members, then that would exclude members >> who go to the meetings. >> The Survey is to get any form of feedback that helps WAMUG grow! >> >> Cheers, >> Ronni who also can not attend the WAMUG meetings. >> >> Sent from Ronni's iPad >> >> On 07/03/2012, at 7:43 PM, Stuart Evans <stuart.ev...@t4.com.au> wrote: >> >>> >>> Wow folks it's a survey about how to make WAMUG better, not a Government >>> survey about your financial health! Any and all information will help the >>> guys improve all offerings as Daniel says. Those of us in the outer fringes >>> will no doubt offer our thoughts even if we can't make it to Perth and have >>> to hold our own meetings around a camp fire (what do you reckon Severin & >>> Neil?). ;-) >>> >>> In any case, for all the benefits we get from the free advice from this >>> group it's not much to ask for a bit of feedback. Or Is it? If it is, then >>> just don't do the survey. No one is twisting your arm, but only because >>> we're not allowed to. :-) >>> >>> Cheerio, >>> Stuart >>> >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPad2 soon to be traded in for an iPad HD! >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 07/03/2012, at 7:21 PM, Derek Perry <dperry...@yahoo.com.au> wrote: >>> >>>> Daniel, >>>> I would have to agree with James, I am not a member I only belong to the >>>> Wamug mailing list & therefore there are only 3 questions that apply to me >>>> No 1,2 &10, the survey should only have been sent to financial members, as >>>> it is only their opinion you are really soliciting. >>>> Derek >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ________________________________ >>>> From: Daniel Kerr <wa...@macwizardry.com.au> >>>> To: wamug@wamug.org.au >>>> Sent: Wednesday, 7 March 2012 8:35 AM >>>> Subject: Re: [ADMIN] - WAMUG Survey >>>> >>>> Sorry James, but I would tend to disagree. Out of the 10 questions, I see >>>> 2 that are related to financial members. Question 2 (are you a financial >>>> member) and 3 (what benefits do you think should differ). >>>> The survey is there for a "guide" to help the committee work on a) >>>> expanding the group and b) to get feedback for meetings and other things >>>> to do with meetings. >>>> >>>> So far we've had 32 responses which I think is great and will be very >>>> beneficial to the committee to help strengthen WAMUG overall. >>>> >>>> But the survey does allow >>>> partially completed anyway. >>>> >>>> Kind regards >>>> Daniel >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone 4s >>>> >>>> --- >>>> Daniel Kerr >>>> MacWizardry >>>> >>>> Phone: 0414 795 960 >>>> Email: <daniel AT macwizardry.com.au> >>>> Web: <http://www.macwizardry.com.au> >>>> >>>> >>>> **For everything Macintosh** >>>> >>>> On 07/03/2012, at 8:24 AM, James / Hans Kunz wrote: >>>> >>>>> the survey is wrongly setup, most of the questions are for financial >>>>> members, but have to be filled in/answered by anyone, which is not >>>>> possible, thus the survey cannot be completed & returned >>>>> you may have to change a number of question or accept partially filled in >>>>> surveys >>>>> James >>>>> >>>>> SAD Technic >>>>> U3 6 Chalkley Pl >>>>> Bayswater WA >>>>> Australia >>>>> +618 9370 5307 >>>>> mob 0414 421132 (international +614 14421132) >>>>> sad...@iinet.net.au >>>>> http://www.members.iinet.net.au/~saddas/ >>>>> >>>>> Patience and perseverance have a magical effect before which difficulties >>>>> disappear and obstacles vanish. >>>>> >>>>> On 06/03/2012, at 10:46 PM, Daniel Kerr wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi All >>>>>> >>>>>> As requested, here is the email sent to the list recently with the link >>>>>> for the WAMUG Survey. >>>>>> For those that hadn't completed it, the survey is still open so feel >>>>>> free to complete. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks >>>>>> >>>>>> Kind regards >>>>>> Daniel >>>>>> >>>>>> --- >>>>>> Daniel Kerr >>>>>> MacWizardry >>>>>> >>>>>> Phone: 0414 795 960 >>>>>> Email: <daniel AT macwizardry.com.au> >>>>>> Web: <http://www.macwizardry.com.au> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> **For everything Macintosh** >>>>>> >>>>>> Begin forwarded message: >>>>>> >>>>>>> From: WAMUG Mailing List Admin <nore...@wamug.org.au> >>>>>>> Subject: [ADMIN] - WAMUG Survey >>>>>>> Date: 24 February 2012 10:16:59 PM AWST >>>>>>> To: WAMUG <wamug@wamug.org.au> >>>>>>> Reply-To: wamug@wamug.org.au >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi WAMUG >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To get a better understanding, and help us improve WAMUG we would >>>>>>> appreciate if you could take the time to complete the following survey. >>>>>>> All answers are anonymous and no personal >>>> information is collected. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> We have put together just 10 short questions to gain your insight to >>>>>>> what you feel of "WAMUG" and what you would like to see. Through this >>>>>>> we hope to provide better information, content, and overall fun for >>>>>>> you, our list members and meeting go-ers! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> And you can even complete it on your Mac, iPad and iPhone! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Follow the link here - <http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/PWT63NV> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> We would greatly appreciate if you could spend a few minutes and >>>>>>> complete it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks in advance >>>>>>> -WAMUG Committee >>>>>>> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- >>>>>>> Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> >>>>>>> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> >>>>>>> Settings & Unsubscribe - >>>>>>> <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- >>>>>> Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> >>>>>> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> >>>>>> Settings & Unsubscribe - >>>>>> <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug> >>>>> >>>>> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- >>>>> Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> >>>>> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> >>>>> Settings & Unsubscribe - >>>>> <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug> >>>> >>>> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- >>>> Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> >>>> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> >>>> Settings & Unsubscribe - >>>> <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug> >>>> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- >>>> Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> >>>> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> >>>> Settings & Unsubscribe - >>>> <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug> >>> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- >>> Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> >>> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> >>> Settings & Unsubscribe - >>> <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug> >> >> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- >> Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> >> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> >> Settings & Unsubscribe - >> <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug> > > -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- > Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> > Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> > Settings & Unsubscribe - > <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> Settings & Unsubscribe - <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug>
