Apple willing to issue refunds to iPad buyers in Australia: /Quote: Offer comes after consumer commission finds Apple misled buyers by labeling the device as 4G-capable when it actually operates at a different frequency.”
Apple is reportedly willing to offer refunds to iPad buyers in Australia who feel they were misled to believe the new tabletis capable of connecting to the 4G/LTE network Down Under. Apple senior counsel Paul Anastassiou told the Federal Court in Melbourne today that the company was prepared to offer refunds even though it had -- he said -- never claimed the new tablet would work fully on the 4G network in Australia operated by Telestra, according to variouspublished reports. Apple also proposed publishing a clarification regarding incompatibility issues on its Web site and at its stores. The revelation comes a day after the Australian Competition and Consumer Commission found Apple in violation of the Australian Consumer Law by misleadingly labeling its new iPad as 4G-capable and said it would try to get a court to impose fines and an injunction against sales. /End Quote Full article can be read here: <http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-57405581-37/apple-willing-to-issue-refunds-to-ipad-buyers-in-australia/?tag=mncol;editorPicks> TinyURL if above link does not work: <http://tinyurl.com/6qbhq9b> Cheers, Ronni On 28/03/2012, at 10:26 AM, [email protected] wrote: > Hmmmm. It's kind of everyone splitting hairs. You can call Vivid 4G > but it's not great coverage and not great speeds and note really what > you expect of 4G. At the end of the day the iPad doesn't support 4G > LTE and it will be either the next model(s) or we wait until 2015 when > 700MHz becomes available. > > I don't think that Apple were misleading. It's not too different from > the iPhone where we have 3G networks across the country on different > frequencies. We couldn't use an iPhone on Optus or Vodafone 3G in > Albany until the iPhone 4 because they used a different frequency. I > don't know why Apple branded the models that way. Maybe could have > just had iPad Wifi and iPad Wifi/Mobile (obviously their marketing > dudes would come up with something sexier!). > > > Great publicity though huh? > > > Quoting Adrian Skehan <[email protected]>: > >> ABC News 24 is headlining that the ACCC is taking Apple to court on >> the basis that Apple iPad 4G claims are misleading. >> >> http://bigpondnews.com/articles/Technology/2012/03/28/Apple_iPad_4G_claims_misleading-ACCC_733681.html >> >> I thought it was very clear from the launch that it would not work in AU. >> >> >> >> >> Regards, >> >> >> Adrian >> >> [email protected] >> >> >> >> >> On 28/03/2012, at 8:47 AM, Susan Hastings wrote: >> >>> good news indeed. >>> --- >>> Susan Hastings >>> Mobile: 0409 688 004 >>> [email protected] >>> >>> >>> On 28/03/2012, at 8:21 AM, Martin Hill wrote: >>> >>>> What the tech at Telstra couldn't sell you was a 4G LTE contract. >>>> >>>> However, what you do have is a sim that gets you on the 4G HSPA+ >>>> dual carrier network instead. The tech may have called it a "3G >>>> sim", but the ITU classifies it as 4G as well. As you say, it is >>>> pretty damn fast. >>>> >>>> Considering my home ADSL connection tops out at 2-3mbps, getting >>>> up to 42mbps on HSPA+ dual carrier on the iPad (so far up to >>>> 20mbps real-world speeds) on Telstra's NextG network is pretty >>>> astonishing when you think about it. >>>> >>>> -Mart >>>> >>>> >>>> On 28/03/2012, at 7:19 AM, Susan Hastings <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Martin, I'm using a 3G sim in a third generation iPad. I was >>>>> told by someone in a Telstra shop that Telstra will not be >>>>> issuing a 4g micro sim for the iPad because our version of the >>>>> iPad does not support our version of 4g. So wondering if the iPad >>>>> switches over to the faster network with the 3G sim. It does seem >>>>> to be pretty fast. Cheers, Susan >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPad >>>>> >>>>> On 28/03/2012, at 12:08 AM, Martin Hill <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Don't believe the noise on the interwebs - the new iPad does >>>>>> work on 4G frequencies and at 4G speeds in Australia. >>>>>> >>>>>> The International Telecommunications Union (ITU) defines "4G" to include: >>>>>> - LTE (Long Term Evolution) >>>>>> - WiMax >>>>>> - HSPA+ dual carrier >>>>>> >>>>>> Vivid Wireless advertises their WiMax service which tops out at >>>>>> 4-5mbps around Australia as 4G. >>>>>> >>>>>> Telstra advertises their HSPA+ dual carrier service which is >>>>>> capable of running at speeds up to 42mps as 4G (as per the ITU). >>>>>> Already users are reporting real-world speeds of up to 20 Mbps >>>>>> in Sydney besting Vivid Wireless's 4G speeds by a factor of 4. >>>>>> >>>>>> At the moment, Telstra's LTE service is giving faster speeds in >>>>>> many tests, but just wait till the number of users increases to >>>>>> the sorts of numbers on the HSPA frequencies and you should see >>>>>> those speeds drop as LTE users (just like HSPA and WiMax) all >>>>>> share the same bandwidth to their local tower. In the USA, tests >>>>>> of 4G in New York top out at 20mbps - the same as what Tesltra >>>>>> HSPA+ dual carrier achieves in the real world here in Australia. >>>>>> >>>>>> Telstra has also previously indicated they would be doubling the >>>>>> speed of HSPA+ DC to 84mbps using MIMO which would give it >>>>>> parity with the current generation of LTE. Only LTE Advanced >>>>>> theoretically offers greater than 100mbps. >>>>>> >>>>>> The iPad 4G is indeed 4G in Australia and the ACCC has no case. -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> Settings & Unsubscribe - <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug>
