Hi Adrian,
        Thanks for the reminder but I have already done that to no avail.  Will 
keep trying.

John
On 31/03/2012, at 11:13 AM, Adrian Skehan wrote:

> Hi John!
> 
> Reading the hints so far I don't see any mention of deleting the Safari 
> preference  "com.apple.Safari.plist" from the Library Preference Folder.  
> That was once upon a time a cure for a lot of annoying problems.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> 
> Adrian
> 
> [email protected]
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 31/03/2012, at 10:52 AM, John Thompson wrote:
> 
>> Hi Again,
>>      This is still an ongoing problem for me.  At the moment I have found an 
>> earlier version of Safari (5.1.1) and copied it to my HD.  For some of the 
>> time this older version appears to work as well as before but after 
>> re-starting the computer, it goes back to the same problem encountered with 
>> 5.1.5.  Firefox does work better but still not as rapidly as it should.  I 
>> keep going back to my Macbook running SL and all is fine.  Something has 
>> crept into my setup but as yet, I have not been able to isolate it.
>>      I had been away for a week and upon returning last Sunday this problem 
>> started.
>>      I have followed all the tips given by Ronni and Carlo but the situation 
>> has not improved.
>> 
>> Regards
>> 
>> John
>> On 30/03/2012, at 10:00 AM, cm wrote:
>> 
>>> Ok. Let us know how things turn out. I would double check the Wifi 
>>> strength. Failing that it could be a router setup problem when more than 
>>> one Wifi client is attached.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Carlo
>>> 
>>> On 30/03/2012, at 9:37 , John Thompson wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Carlo,
>>>> 
>>>> On 30/03/2012, at 8:59 AM, cm wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Ah yes, a Mac mini of course. When I glanced at the email trail I saw 
>>>>> Ronni's specs by mistake and not yours. In any case if there is no 
>>>>> problem with Snow Leopard then your internet connection is likely not the 
>>>>> problem.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Have you had OS X Lion installed for long? There are a number of 
>>>>> processes, Spotlight indexing in particular, that run for a some hours 
>>>>> after the install. These can slow down the response of the whole system.
>>>> Yes, I have had Lion for quite some time so the spotlight indexing would 
>>>> not be a problem at this stage.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Is your Mac mini connected by Wifi to your router or is it an ethernet 
>>>>> cable? Also how is your Macbook connected to the router?
>>>> Both the Mac Mini and the Macbook are connected by wireless to the Router. 
>>>>  I have tried to connect the mini be ethernet direct to the modem and that 
>>>> has not made a difference.
>>>> 
>>>> Will preserver for now and use the Macbook when I think the mini is too 
>>>> slow.
>>>> 
>>>> John
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Carlo
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 30/03/2012, at 8:50 , John Thompson wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks for the response Carlo.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 30/03/2012, at 8:27 AM, cm wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi John,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I was a bit suspicious of the solution because you said you had tried 
>>>>>>> Firefox and it also had a problem. So it was not clear to me why two 
>>>>>>> different browser would have a problem at the same time.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> If it is a problem with Lion that slows down internet connections you 
>>>>>>> would be the first one to find such. So I guess I have a couple of 
>>>>>>> questions that may help identify the source (or not).
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Are, in fact, both Safari and Firefox slow on your Lion installation?
>>>>>> Yes.  But Safari is slightly slower that Firefox
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Are either slow on a Snow Leopard installation if you still have one?
>>>>>> I have Snow Leopard on my Macbook and both browsers work fine
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Try connecting you MacBook Pro up to someone else's internet / router 
>>>>>>> and see if the problem persists.
>>>>>> That could be difficult as I don't have access to another router and my 
>>>>>> main computer is a MacMini, not a Macbook Pro.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> John
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> Carlo
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 30/03/2012, at 8:05 , John Thompson wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Well, that didn't work for long.  Turned the computer on this morning 
>>>>>>>> and back to the same old problem.  Tried with my Macbook running SL 
>>>>>>>> and all worked just fine.  Can't help think it is something to do with 
>>>>>>>> Lion.  Have had no end of little problems since installing same.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> John
>>>>>>>> On 29/03/2012, at 4:33 PM, John Thompson wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Sorry Ronni,
>>>>>>>>>       That should have read Safari Preferences/Privacy, not Security.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> John
>>>>>>>>> On 29/03/2012, at 12:28 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Hi John,
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I’m a bit concerned what Data did Primus ask you to clear in Safari 
>>>>>>>>>> Preferences > Security?
>>>>>>>>>> Safari Preferences > Security has your settings for ‘Fraudulent 
>>>>>>>>>> Sites’ & Web content: Enable plug-ins, Java, JavaScript & Block 
>>>>>>>>>> pop-up windows.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Empty Cache and Reset Safari are under Safari (in Menu bar).
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>> Ronni
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 17" MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt"
>>>>>>>>>> 2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> OS X 10.7.3 Lion
>>>>>>>>>> Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On 29/03/2012, at 12:01 PM, John Thompson wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Further to my earlier post.  On information from my server (Primus) 
>>>>>>>>>>> I have cleared the data stored in Safari Preferences/Security.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> All works fine now
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> John
>>>>>>>>>>> On 29/03/2012, at 10:54 AM, John Thompson wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Good Morning List,
>>>>>>>>>>>>    Hopefully someone may have an answer.  Just recently (in the 
>>>>>>>>>>>> last week actually) when clicking on web URL's the spinning sun 
>>>>>>>>>>>> goes on in Safari for quite some time. up to three or more minutes 
>>>>>>>>>>>> at times, before the site activates.  I have also tried Firefox.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Any ideas?
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> John Thompson
>>>>>>>>>>>> WAMUG #861
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Mac Mini
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2.53 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
>>>>>>>>>>>> 4 GB 1067 MHz DDR3
>>>>>>>>>>>> Mac OS X 10.7.3
>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>>> Mail 5.2
>>>>>>>>>>>> Safari 5.1.4
>>>>>>>>>>>> Firefox 11.0
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
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