HI Peter,

If it makes you feel any better about Windoze they are working as fast as their 
buggy little legs will carry them to copy OS X. Word is that Windows 8 will be 
getting rid of the start button and moving entirely to whatever it is that they 
call their copy of Dock -- task bar I think it is. As Bertrand Serlet said at 
Apple's 2006 World Wide Developers Converence after announcing Tiger, "Redmond, 
start your photocopiers". :-)

Regards,
Carlo

On 30/06/2012, at 15:46 , Curtis Peter wrote:

> Hi Shayne (and others)
> I've never used a windoze machine except for the last couple of years running 
> OzieExplorer which cannot be run on a Mac, and is the only reason I'm running 
> Paralells. It saves having an additional machine around. I had unsuccessfully 
> tried the older virtual programs (Virtual PC) but they were too slow and 
> cumbersome. 
> I started using Mac in 1982 on an Apple 111! It cost me $5000 and didn't even 
> have a hard drive, plus I had to buy an additional drive to save swapping 
> 5.25 program and data floppy disks.
> If windoze users think it's hard swapping to a Mac you aught to try the other 
> way round, Mac to Windoze! It's horrific. You keep looking for the intuitive 
> way of doing things and there just aint any. Right from the beginning where 
> you have to go to start to actually finish or shut down. Makes sense doesn't 
> it?
> Anyway, back to the present, I did download AVG and tried that but the 
> Windows Security Essentials sounded better to me so I've wiped AVG and 
> downloaded the Essentials to give it a go.
> Much thanks to all in sundry for their informative suggestions and comments.
> Regards
> Peter
> 
> On 29/06/2012, at 10:17 PM, S Beach wrote:
> 
>> Hi Peter
>> 
>> I've used and serviced Windows computers for many years and may have even
>> serviced yours just at the time you were switching to Mac.
>> I've used AVG in the past and got sick of lots of questions and pop-ups and
>> buy-me messages. I have also used Nortons in the past and while my
>> experience was ok they seemed to add more unnecessary features each
>> release. They may have trimmed back a bit now -i dont know.
>> When I use Windows now in VMware and other pc's I use the free antivirus
>> program from Microsoft called Windows Security Essentials.
>> Surprise surprise it has been given good reviews. It works effectively,
>> doesn't seem to slow the computer down and doesn't annoy you.
>> Best of all it works seemlessly with the built in Windows firewall and
>> doesn't ask you stupid questions that it you dont have a clue how to answer
>> and it should be able to answer itself.
>> 
>> And yes every windows installation, physical or virtual, must have
>> antivirus software installed and running at all times.
>> 
>> Those questions are easily answered... But from my reading of your email it
>> seems you are asking about antivirus for Mac.
>> Now there's a question that I don't know the answer to & it seems few
>> people want to face up too but I fear we may all have too perhaps sooner
>> rather than later. I read an article a while back that convinced me I
>> should find some sort of antivirus app for my Mac. I added it to my to-do
>> list. Sigh. Do I too have a (perhaps) false sense of security?
>> 
>> Anyway the cynic in me suspects that parallels gets a commission for every
>> Kaspersky sale it refers. Not possible surely! :-) I wouldn't necessarily
>> rush to them anyway. I would be looking for objective reviews and
>> comparisons on tech sites etc... if objective reviews still exist in a
>> world of referral commisions & affiliate marketing.
>> 
>> Sorry I can't be more help on this front.
>> 
>> Regards
>> Shayne
>> 
>> 
>> On Friday, June 29, 2012, Tim Law wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Peter,
>>> 
>>> I get that annoying Kaperski pop up too and have often wondered the same
>>> thing as you.
>>> 
>>> I ended up buying a family licence for Nortons as others in my family,
>>> sigh - failed parenting I know - have those other machines, and Nortons
>>> seems to work okay. I don't use Windows in Parrallels very often, but let
>>> it go through all it's updates as it wants each time I start up to avoid
>>> nasties getting in and have not had any problems with it so far.
>>> 
>>> I take Ronni's point that another app may be kinder on  VM resources and
>>> will look at avg when Nortons want to take money from me again.
>>> 
>>> I'd be interested in others experiences of Kasperky too, in particular if
>>> it is recommended by Parrallels, I'd be hoping it was A) effective
>>> antivirus, and B) not resource hungry. I'm like you, I'd not heard of it
>>> before and have a general distrust of annoying pop ups.
>>> 
>>> Tim
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 29/06/2012, at 11:16 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi Peter,
>>>> 
>>>> I run Windows 7 Ultimate in Parallels Desktop 7. Have used Parallels
>>> since version 5 I think.
>>>> It is a very good program. I only have Windows installed on my MBP to
>>> show clients that they can run Windows on a Mac :-)
>>>> So I really don't use Windows 7 much at all...
>>>> 
>>>> On 29/06/2012, at 9:56 AM, Curtis Peter wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi
>>>>> I'm in the process of loading Parallels which I bought from the last
>>> June MacUpdate Bundle (thanks Daniel) Parallels are recommending Kaspersky
>>> Anti Virus for Mac and as Parallels is for Windoze I am a little concerned!
>>>>> Should I worry about virus's with Parallels generally?
>>>> 
>>>> You should install Anti-Virus protection in Windows on any computer and
>>> that includes when you have Windows installed in Parallels.
>>>> You can get a Windows virus on your Virtual Machine.
>>>> 
>>>> A full install of the Parallels Desktop Tools opens up access to the Mac
>>> disc drives.
>>>> Although a Windows virus would not infect the Mac environment via
>>> Parallels, it is possible that using an infected Windows Word to edit a
>>> Word doc on the Mac would definitely lead to a Macro virus infection of
>>> .doc files on the Mac.
>>>> Sharing such a file with your correspondents would send them the virus,
>>> and they would then be infected.
>>>> 
>>>>> Should I have an anti virus program?
>>>> 
>>>> Most definitely
>>>> 
>>>>> Should I use Kaspersky Anti Virus?
>>>> 
>>>> I seem to remember having problems after I installed Kaspersky Anti
>>> Virus and I had to uninstall it.
>>>> I think it was to do with Kaspersky's Firewall causing problems. If I
>>> find my notes I'll post more.
>>>> 
>>>>> Or is there some other recommended anti virus program?
>>>> 
>>>> I find AVG Anti-Virus does a very good job.
>>>> AVG Antivirus - it uses less VM resources, has good reviews and best of
>>> all, it's FREE!!!!
>>>> <http://free.avg.com/ww-en/free-antivirus-download>
>>>> 
>>>> People who use Windows in Parallels for work might suggest other Virus
>>> Protection programs.
>>>> 
>>>>> Regards
>>>>> Peter
>>>>> p.s. There's my annual subs repaid for this year :)
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Ronni
>>>> 
>>>> 17" MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt"
>>>> 2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD
>>>> 
>>>> OS X 10.7.4 Lion
>>>> Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)
>>>> 
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