Hi Ronni All went OK. I wouldn't dare tell you otherwise - WAMUG needs you more than it needs me!
So the Time Capsule automatic choice was right, which is reassuring. Old Mac on 5GHz returned a Transmit Rate of 108. (Rate was 130 at 2.4 GHz.) Thank you. Cheers Alan On 25/05/2013, at 2:49 PM, Ronda Brown <[email protected]> wrote: > Ok Alan, > > I normally only give this this formation to my paying clients. > When I setup a Dual-Band Network for clients I give a separate SSID (Name) > for the 5GHz Network so they can easily see which Band (5GHz or 2.4GHz) of > the Dual-Band Network their computer or device is connected to. > > Separate SSID (Name) for the 5GHz Network and connect to that one manually on > your iMac, and from there be able to see which Network band you're on. > > To do this, follow the below steps... Carefully: > > 1.Open Airport Utility 6.0: > > 2. Select (click once to highlight) "Alan's Time Capsule" (or what ever TC is > named) > > 3. Then click > Edit > Wireless > Wireless Options > Tick the box next to > "5GHz network name". > > 4. Don't change the Network Name... Just add 5GHz at the end of the Network > Name > > 5. Then click 'Update' > > For Example: Your Dual-Band Network Name (SSID) is: > Fantastic > Just add 5GHz to the end of that name to make it: > Fantastic 5GHz > > DON'T change anything else or mess up; just follow the instructions to add > 5GHz to the name... > If you mess up Daniel will kill me for suggesting you do this! > > Cheers, > Ronni > Sent from Ronni's iPad4 > > On 25/05/2013, at 2:17 PM, Alan Smith <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Hi Ronni >> >> The only network seen in the Menu Bar is the name "polly" (which is my >> network) which has a single entry. I occasionally see my neighbours named >> network. I do not see the frequency bands. I assumed it was the >> greyed-out details under 'polly' on each Mac that showed which band was in >> use. >> >> Yes please, I'd like the further level of detail. >> >> Cheers >> Alan >> >> >> On 25/05/2013, at 1:40 PM, Ronda Brown <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Hi Alan, >>> >>> DON'T go fiddling with the Network in Airport Utility. >>> >>> You should be able to select the 5GHz band of your Wi-Fi network as I >>> mentioned below in my previous reply to you... >>> >>> Click on the WiFi symbol in the Menu bar you should see all available >>> Networks, you Dual-Band Network should show twice, select the 5GHz one of >>> your Network. >>> >>> Then you can follow: >>>> You could check the Transmit Rate, by manually connecting the 'old' iMac >>>> to the 5GHz and comparing the details to when it is connected to the >>>> 2.4GHz band. >>>> As you did before by 'option click' on the Wi-Fi symbol when connected to >>>> each band. >>> >>> If you can't see both bands of your Network, post back and I'll give you >>> instructions how you can name 5GHz Network to make it simpler for you to >>> see which Network is which 'band'. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Ronni >>> Sent from Ronni's iPad4 >>> >>> On 25/05/2013, at 12:45 PM, Alan Smith <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Ronni >>>> >>>> Thanks for the info. The old iMac (late 2009) fully supports 802.11n. >>>> >>>> I was going to check the Transmit Rate at 5 GHz by manually setting it >>>> up. But, er, I didn't know how to do that. >>>> >>>> Apple Communities discussion pointed me to Airport Utility, Wireless >>>> Options. Time Capsule has both 2.4 and 5 GHz chanels set to "Automatic". >>>> I was anticipating a change to the Mac machine preferences, not >>>> settings in Time Capsule, which seems to me would affect the entire >>>> network, not just the old Mac. (This explains Daniel's earlier comment >>>> that he had set up TC for "automatic" in response to my comment that he >>>> had possibly not set up the old Mac channel preference to "the preferred" >>>> 5 GHz band.) >>>> >>>> Decision (based on ignorance, tempered by your explanation) is to leave it >>>> as it is. If Time Capsule has determined "automatically" that 2.4GHz is >>>> best, then I'm happy to leave it there! I don't recall problems with >>>> radio interference (a common problem raised in Apple Communities) but >>>> will take note of what other household appliances are operating when using >>>> AirDrop. >>>> >>>> Thanks for your continued patience is stepping me through the processes. >>>> >>>> >>>> Cheers >>>> Alan >>>> >>>> >>>> On 25/05/2013, at 10:57 AM, Ronni Brown <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Alan, >>>>> >>>>>> But it then raises the question of why is the old Mac using 2.4GHz? >>>>> >>>>> There are reasons why: >>>>> >>>>> Firstly, I don’t know how old your ‘old’ iMac is; I presume as it is >>>>> running Mountain Lion that it has a wireless card that supports 802.11n >>>>> 5GHz. All Macs with Wi-Fi released since October 2006—except for pre-2009 >>>>> Mac minis—do; so can the iPad and the Apple TV. >>>>> >>>>> Secondly, I don’t know where you have the ‘old’ iMac located... how far >>>>> away from the Time Capsule, how many walls in between, etc. >>>>> >>>>> So first check if ‘old’ iMac does support 802.11n. >>>>> >>>>> 1. On your ‘old’ iMac: >>>>> Open Network Utility: Applications > Utilities > Network Utility >>>>> Choose the appropriate interface “Wi-Fi (en1)” >>>>> Under Interface Information - Model: Wireless Network Adapter (802.11 >>>>> a/b/g/n) >>>>> >>>>> If it doesn’t show (802.11 a/b/g/n) but instead shows (802.11a/b/g) you >>>>> need to install 802.11n Enabler. >>>>> >>>>> Again presuming your ‘old’ iMac does support 802.11n 5GHz. >>>>> >>>>> 2. You might have manually selected your ‘old’ iMac to connect to the >>>>> 2.4GHz band instead of the 5GHz band by selecting it under the Wi-Fi >>>>> symbol in the Menu Bar >>>>> >>>>> 3. The 5 GHz band is a higher, shorter radio frequency, which means that >>>>> at the same amount of radio transmission power, its radio waves propagate >>>>> shorter distances than those of 2.4 GHz base stations. >>>>> >>>>> The 5 GHz band is also worse at penetrating solid objects such as wooden >>>>> walls in a home (neither band can penetrate metal walls, such as lath and >>>>> plaster walls using a metal mesh found in some older buildings). 5GHz can >>>>> be more sensitive to environmental interferences. >>>>> >>>>> As I mentioned in my previous reply to you, your multi-band devices >>>>> automatically use the best available band. >>>>> This means all your Wi-Fi devices get the fastest possible wireless >>>>> performance and the best possible range. >>>>> >>>>> So in summary: (Again presuming your 'old' iMac supports 802.11n); and >>>>> you have not manually selected the 2.4GHz band for your 'old' iMac...... >>>>> The 2.4GHz is the best available band for the 'old' iMac at the time. >>>>> >>>>> You could check the Transmit Rate, by manually connecting the 'old' iMac >>>>> to the 5GHz and comparing the details to when it is connected to the >>>>> 2.4GHz band. >>>>> As you did before by 'option click' on the Wi-Fi symbol when connected to >>>>> each band. >>>>> >>>>> Hope that clears things up for you. >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Ronni >>>>> >>>>> On 25/05/2013, at 8:02 AM, Alan Smith <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Ronni >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks for your detailed explanation. But it then raises the question >>>>>> of why is the old Mac using 2.4GHz? Your explanation suggests that the >>>>>> system chooses the best band automatically but your earlier email asked >>>>>> me why I was using 2.4 and inferred 5 GHz is better. I will read your >>>>>> explanation of TC more carefully, but I am confused. >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers >>>>>> Alan >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from my iPad >>>>>> >>>>>> On 25/05/2013, at 7:28 AM, Ronda Brown <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Alan, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Daniel would have created/setup for you a Airport Time Capsule >>>>>>> "Simultaneous dual-band Wi-Fi Network" for maximum range and >>>>>>> compatibility. This Wireless Network works simultaneously on both the >>>>>>> 2.4GHz and 5GHz bands. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> What that means is: >>>>>>> WiFi is turned ON all your computers & devices they will all >>>>>>> automatically connect to the Wireless Network's correct Band >>>>>>> simultaneously. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> That is: Your iMacs & iPad will automatically connect to the 5GHz Band; >>>>>>> your iPhone will connect to the 2.4GHz band of the Dual-Band Wireless >>>>>>> Network. All on the same Network... One Network. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On my Website I explain a Simultaneous Dual-Band 802.11n Wi-Fi Base >>>>>>> Station and a tutorial how to. >>>>>>> <http://ronnibrown.net/tutorials/simultaneous-dual-band/index.html> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> /Quote from my web page: >>>>>>> Simultaneous Dual-Band 802.11n Wi-Fi Base Station. >>>>>>> Some Wi-Fi devices use the 2.4GHz wireless band, including iPhone, iPod >>>>>>> touch, and devices using 802.11b/g. >>>>>>> Other devices can use either 2.4GHz or the higher-speed 5GHz band, such >>>>>>> as the latest 802.11n-based Mac computers and Apple TV and iPad. >>>>>>> Instead of choosing one of the bands, AirPort Extreme and Time Capsule >>>>>>> now operates simultaneously on both bands, and your multi-band devices >>>>>>> automatically use the best available band. >>>>>>> This means all your Wi-Fi devices get the fastest possible wireless >>>>>>> performance and the best possible range. >>>>>>> /End quote from my web page: >>>>>>> I hope that explains your Network more clearly to you. >>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>> Ronni >>>>>>> Sent from Ronni's iPad4 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 24/05/2013, at 11:24 PM, Daniel Kerr <[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You don't set up…the Time Capsule - it should already be Dual >>>>>>>> Band,..hence it is already working with both the 2.4GHz and 5GHz >>>>>>>> range,…. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> So really no "should" needed,….it was working in both the 2.4Ghz and >>>>>>>> 5GHz range when I was there….. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Kind regards >>>>>>>> Daniel >>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>> Daniel Kerr >>>>>>>> MacWizardry >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Phone: 0414 795 960 >>>>>>>> Email: <daniel AT macwizardry.com.au> >>>>>>>> Web: <http://www.macwizardry.com.au> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> **For everything Apple** >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 24/05/2013, at 10:59 PM, Alan Smith <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Perhaps Daniel "should" have changed it to 5 GHz when he set up the >>>>>>>>> TC > -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- > Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> > Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> > Settings & Unsubscribe - > <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug>
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