Hey Ronni

Thanks very much indeed for your really expansive instructions for converting 
these sounds. 
Yes the ones I have found need the conversion for both platforms.

Will your instructions for IOS7 work for IOS 6.1.2 as I have a 4S iPhone with 
16gb. It still works very well, and Im not sure it will run IOS7?

I will give it go over the weekend

Best regards and many thanks

Chris

On 25/07/2014, at 2:22 PM, Ronni Brown wrote:

> Hi Chris,
> 
> I was sort of on the right track, you are referring to "System Alert Sound" 
> files... 
> You do realise you can change a default sound file... there are 14 sound 
> files in OS X...
> 
> Alert Sounds on iOS 7 are not the same format as Alert Sounds on your OS X 
> System.
> 
> On your Mac:
> A) You want to create & add a 'Custom Alert Sound" file to your "System Alert 
> Sounds" 
> As I mentioned previously in my email below:
> The Basic alert sound files are contained in a Sounds folder inside the 
> System > Library folder of the disk. 
> They are in AIFF format with sample rates of 44,100 or 22,050 and time 
> duration of less than a second.
> 
> Create custom alert sounds for your Mac:
> Mac OS X demands that all alert sounds be AIFF (the uncompressed Audio 
> Interchange File Format). 
> 
> This means you’ll need to convert your audio files through another 
> application before they can be used by the system.
> 
> You can convert your sound files with iTunes: 
> 1. First, drag the Audio Files into iTunes to add them to your Library. 
> 2. Choose iTunes > Preferences. 
> 3. Under General, you will see a section for “When you insert a CD.” 
> Adjacent to it is a button called Import Settings, and clicking it allows you 
> to change the app’s audio conversion method. 
> 4. Choose AIFF Encoder from the first pop-up menu, click OK, and then click 
> OK once more to return to your library. 
> 5. Find the newly-added audio file
> 6. Choose Advanced > Create AIFF Version. 
> 
> The AIFF duplicates of your files will appear in seconds, and will be 
> identifiable by their somewhat larger file size. 
> Drag these files to the Desktop. (Once there, you’ll see that the files have 
> an .aiff extension.)
> 
> Depending on the time duration of your original 'Sound Effects' files you 
> might need to shorten the time duration.
> You can change the time duration on the audio file in iTunes.
>  
> Adding sounds to your system
> 
> Home Library Sounds Folder
> 1. Go to the Finder (if you’re not already there) Hold down the Option key 
> while choosing Library from the Finder’s Go menu.
> 2. Double-click your Library folder, and once inside, find and open the 
> folder called Sounds. 
> 3. Drag and drop the audio files into this folder; once there, they’ll be 
> available to all applications that use alert sounds.
> 
> The one caveat with this approach is that the custom alert sounds are only 
> available within your own user account. 
> 
> Library Sounds Folder
> If you share your Mac with family members and want the sounds to be available 
> within their user accounts:
> 1. Create a NEW Sounds folder in the Main Hard Drive window’s Library folder.
> 2.Then Drag the custom sound files into Macintosh HD > Library -> Sounds. 
> 
> Any sound files you put there now appear in every account holder’s list of 
> alert sounds.
> **********************************************************************************
> 
> B) Alert Sounds on iOS 7 are not the same format as Alert Sounds on your OS X 
> System.
> 
> Custom Ringtone & Custom Alert Tone originate from .m4r sound files and when 
> added to iTunes will all appear in "Tones".
> 
> You might be wondering what the difference is between an Alert Tone and a 
> Ringtone. 
> The only real difference is the duration of the sound – a single, short sound 
> is usually appropriate for an Alert Tone – for example, a short two-note 
> sound to indicate an incoming message. 
> For incoming voice call Ringtones, longer sounds of up to thirty seconds are 
> generally used. After this period of time, the call is transferred to 
> voicemail.
> Remember that even though there are two categories of tones, you are free to 
> assign either Alert Tones or Ringtones interchangeably to every kind of 
> system event.
> 
> To Create an Alert Tone for iOS is the same as Creating a Ringtone for iOS 
> (but set a shorter sound duration 0:01 - 0:05 for Alert tone) 
> 
> 1. Select the song you want to use as a ringtone in iTunes
> 2. Right click (Control-Click) on the song
>     Select “Get Info”
> 3. Click  the “Options” tab
> 4. Check both the “Start Time” and “End Time” boxes 
>      Start Time 0:00
>      Stop Time  0:40
> 5. Specify what time interval you’d like to use as your ringtone clip (Make 
> sure your ringtone is 40 seconds or less / or Tone 0:01-0:05)
> 6. Click “OK”
>     Make sure the song you want is still highlighted
> 7. Right-Click or Control-Click on the song you have just edited
> 8. Select “Create AAC Version” or “Create Apple Lossless Version” (Make sure 
> your iTunes “Import Settings” are set to “AAC” or “Apple Lossless” and not 
> “MP3″) 
> 9.  A duplicate copy of your song will appear in iTunes - this new song will 
> have the same filename but shorter “Time”
> Go back to the original song and uncheck those “Start Time” and “End Time” 
> boxes 
> 10. Drag the duplicate song to your Desktop
> 11. Once the duplicate song is copied to your Desktop, delete the duplicate 
> file in iTunes
> 12. On your Desktop, rename the file with the “.m4r” file extension - Use the 
> new extension
>      This turns your song file into an iPhone ringtone file 
> 13. Your “songname.m4a” file should now be named “songname.m4r”
> 14. Drag the newly renamed .m4r (songname.m4r) file back into iTunes
> 15. Drag the file over the “Library” column and release when “Library” 
> becomes highlighted
> 16. You have to delete the duplicate song file (Step 11) otherwise iTunes 
> won’t import your new .m4r file
> 17. You should see your new ringtone under “Ringtones” in iTunes
> 18. Sync your iPhone to get your new iPhone ringtone / alert tone!
> 
> If you need more details (with pictures) post back for my Tutorial "How To 
> Create A Custom Ringtone (Updated for iOS 7).pdf".
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> 
> 17" MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt"
> 2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD
> 
> OS X 10.9.4 Mavericks
> Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)
> 
> 
> On 25 Jul 2014, at 6:37 am, Chris Burton <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Ronni
>> 
>> Yes my apologies on the lack of detail, my brain is fried after quite a 
>> stressful day.
>> 
>> They are small Waveform audio files of various sound effects I found in old 
>> software when I was cleaning up my mac! 
>> 
>> I was thinking of including a couple of them on my iphone (and mac) to use 
>> as extra choices for the various functions the phone (and mac applications 
>> )do, like receiving a text or sending an email?
>> 
>> Many thanks again
>> 
>> Chris
>> 
>> 
>> On 24/07/2014, at 2:37 PM, Ronni Brown wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Chris,
>>> 
>>> I don't understand your question. What format are the files in, and what do 
>>> you want to use them for?
>>> 
>>> Are you referring to the "System alert sound files"  that are contained in 
>>> a Sounds folder inside the System > Library.
>>> They are in AIFF format with sample rates of 44,100 or 22,050 and time 
>>> duration of less than a second. 
>>> Dropping a suitable file into the folder, then restarting System 
>>> Preferences, will make the new sound available in the list as "Built-in".
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Ronni
>>> 
>>> On 24 Jul 2014, at 1:46 pm, Chris Burton <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi muggers
>>>> 
>>>> I have found some small sound effects files on my Mac that I would like to 
>>>> use both on my phone and also my mac and am wondering how on earth do I go 
>>>> about it, if it is at all possible to do!?
>>>> 
>>>> Can someone please advise me on this?
>>>> 
>>>> Many thanks and best regards
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Chris
>>>> 
>>>> Christopher L.K. Burton
>>>> Director
>>>> Western Whale Research
>>>> PO Box 1076
>>>> Dunsborough WA 6281
>>>> Mobile: 0419 199 120
>>>> Email: [email protected] 
>>>> www.souwest.org
>>> 
> 
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