For those who don't know Graham and me, he was a Mac sceptic for a couple of decades before I could persuade him to try one out, and if I can draw a parallel with born again Christians, he is far more evangelical than they are.
Sent from my iPhone > On 2 Oct. 2016, at 11:25 am, Graham Rabe <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi Daniel, > > Thanks for that. > > Neither method you’ve referred to works. Documents and Desktop folders are > nowhere to be seen under first method and the only reference to those folders > in the Sidebar using the second method is under the iCloud section. > > Cheers, > > Graham >> On 1 Oct. 2016, at 8:28 am, Daniel Kerr <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Hi Graham >> >> You can put the folders in the Sidebar one of two ways. >> First is you can just drag the folder into the Sidebar (from Macintosh HD - >> Users - Yourname, and folders will be there). Then just drag them in. >> The second way is in in the Finder, go to File menu then Preferences. Then >> choose “Sidebar” and you can tick (or untick) the things you want there). >> >> That should get them back to you. >> Will try answer the second later, as just dashing out. >> >> Kind regards >> Daniel >> >> Sent from my iPhone 6 >> >> --- >> Daniel Kerr >> MacWizardry >> >> Phone: 0414 795 960 >> Email: <[email protected]> >> Web: <http://www.macwizardry.com.au> >> >> >> **For everything Apple** >> >> >> >>> On 1 Oct 2016, at 6:49 am, Graham Rabe <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Ronni, >>> >>> Thanks for getting back to me. >>> >>> I no longer have folders under Favorites in Finder called “Desktop" and >>> “Documents” and have been unable to find anything on web about how to put 2 >>> new folders there. Can you help? >>> >>> Another thing - when I open a Word file I’m working on in iCloud Drive, it >>> opens up fine but when I right click on the file name at the top of the >>> screen, it shows its location still as if no change to iCloud has occurred >>> i.e. under my previous User “Documents” folder in Favorites. There is no >>> reference to iCloud Drive (where I have to go to open it in Finder). >>> >>> Weird. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Graham >>>> On 30 Sep. 2016, at 1:57 pm, Ronni Brown <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Graham, >>>> >>>> The documents that were originally on your startup drive are still there >>>> after turning on syncing. >>>> They have just been made invisible. >>>> >>>> A) Are you sure all your documents & desktop files have been uploaded to >>>> iCloud Drive? >>>> B) Did you turn on “Optimize Mac Storage” under iCloud Drive settings? If >>>> so Turn it OFF. >>>> C) And you are NOT wanting to use iCloud Drive, and you want your >>>> Documents and Desktop files back on your Mac? >>>> >>>> NOTE: I’m assuming you have a bootable backup containing your Documents & >>>> Desktop folders ‘Prior’ to installing macOS Sierra and turning iCloud >>>> Drive ON and enabling iCloud sync for ‘Documents and Desktop’. >>>> >>>> If all above is the case and you definitely have all your Documents and >>>> Desktop and data backed up. >>>> In case you need to manually copy the data back over from your backup if >>>> you lose it. >>>> —— >>>> When iCloud sync for ‘Documents and Desktop’ is enabled, macOS simply >>>> moves the folders to the iCloud Drive folder. >>>> When you uncheck the Documents and Desktop settings, it breaks that link >>>> and creates new folders, but leaves your folders and files on iCloud >>>> Drive. - The new folders are empty. >>>> >>>> So what I would suggest you try: >>>> 1. Go to your iCloud Drive and move the files back from the Documents and >>>> Desktop folders in the iCloud drive to the Documents and Desktop folders >>>> in your User home folder. >>>> >>>> This is expressed in the dialog that shows up, but the wording is not very >>>> clear. >>>> >>>> Check all your documents and desktop files are in your Finder Home Folders >>>> on your Mac. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Ronni >>>> >>>>> On 30 Sep. 2016, at 8:57 am, Graham Rabe <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi ronni, >>>>> >>>>> Looking at this link >>>>> https://discussions.apple.com/thread/7680027?start=0&tstart=0 makes me >>>>> think that my problem is not so easily resolved by unticking the Desktop >>>>> and Documents folder in iCloud under System Preferences. >>>>> >>>>> By the way - I never even ticked the Desktop and Documents box under >>>>> iCloud at any time - that was how things were after installing Sierra. >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> >>>>> Graham >>>>>> On 30 Sep. 2016, at 8:39 am, Graham Rabe <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks for that Ronni. >>>>>> >>>>>> If I go to iCloud in System Preferences and untick iCloud Drive, the >>>>>> message is “If you continue, documents on your Desktop and in your >>>>>> Documents folder will be visible in iCloud Drive only”. >>>>>> >>>>>> That is exactly what I do not want. >>>>>> >>>>>> I just want to be where I was before Sierra - where my Documents folder >>>>>> is in Finder under Favorites and not under iCloud section. >>>>>> >>>>>> I’ve assumed that the only place you can turn iCloud Drive on or off is >>>>>> under System Preferences - iCloud. And then I get the message referred >>>>>> to above. >>>>>> >>>>>> I’d appreciate any further assistance you could give me. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> >>>>>> Graham >>>>>>> On 29 Sep. 2016, at 8:00 pm, Ronni Brown <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hello Graham & Michael, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You DON’T have to use "iCloud Drive" unless you want to! >>>>>>> The first thing I do after installing a OS X update & iOS update is >>>>>>> check that iCloud Drive is NOT ON… & turn if OFF if it is. >>>>>>> " iCloud Drive” is turned OFF on all my iDevices and computers. >>>>>>> I use iCloud but NOT “iCloud Drive”! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sierra adds a new iCloud Drive feature where you can integrate your >>>>>>> Desktop and Documents folders with iCloud Drive. >>>>>>> New! Documents and Desktop Folder Syncing >>>>>>> Sierra adds a new iCloud Drive feature where you can integrate your >>>>>>> Desktop and Documents folders with iCloud Drive. >>>>>>> You may want to keep it OFF until you’ve had time to consider it’s pros >>>>>>> and cons— >>>>>>> — >>>>>>> Have a read of the 'iCloud Drive FAQ' >>>>>>> <https://support.apple.com/en-au/HT201104> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Use iCloud Drive to store documents, presentations, spreadsheets, PDFs, >>>>>>> images, you name it, on Apple’s servers. Everything you save here is >>>>>>> immediately synced and available on other compatible Apple devices >>>>>>> you’ve set up. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> That means you can work on a document on your iPad and then open it >>>>>>> later on your Mac. In many cases, you can also work with it on the >>>>>>> iCloud.com Web site. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Apple’s iCloud Drive stores your files in the cloud, making it easy to >>>>>>> access them on any of your Apple devices (or a Windows PC)—so long as >>>>>>> the device has a fast enough Internet connection. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Drag files to and from the iCloud Drive folder in your Mac’s Finder, >>>>>>> and iCloud Drive syncs them across your devices so they’re always up to >>>>>>> date. >>>>>>> ============== >>>>>>> Re: Sierra ——— macOS Sierra 10.12: >>>>>>> I have been running macOS Sierra 10.12 successfully on both my MacBook >>>>>>> Pro and MacBook Air, without any problems at all. >>>>>>> But - I did follow my normal safety ‘Prepare' before upgrading any >>>>>>> major version of OS X. >>>>>>> I updated all applications that had Sierra updates, did CCC bootable >>>>>>> backups / Time Machine as in my Post to WAMUG members 23 Sept. 2016 at >>>>>>> 8:15am - Subject: Sierra >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Prepare to upgrade: >>>>>>> 1. Make sure your computer can run Sierra. >>>>>>> 2. BACKUP! - BACKUP! >>>>>>> 3. Make sure key software is up to date, and remove clutter that could >>>>>>> interfere with the upgrade. >>>>>>> 4. Decide which upgrade strategy is best for you >>>>>>> etc etc etc as per my previous post. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I really like Sierra it is a very good upgrade. One of features I find >>>>>>> extremely useful is ‘Handoff’ >>>>>>> "Use Handoff to move seamlessly between your Apple devices. For >>>>>>> instance, say you start to write an email message on your Mac and then >>>>>>> have to rush out the door for work. While you wait at the train >>>>>>> station, you can finish composing the message on your iPhone. Or, say >>>>>>> you start reading an article in Safari on your iPad and then want to >>>>>>> finish on your iMac at the office. >>>>>>> Handoff lets you pick up where you left off when using Calendar, >>>>>>> Contacts, Keynote, Mail, Maps, Messages, Notes, Numbers, Pages, >>>>>>> Reminders, Safari, and some third-party apps in Sierra and iOS 10” >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>> Ronni >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 13-inch MacBook Air (April 2014) >>>>>>> 1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz >>>>>>> 8GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM >>>>>>> 512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage >>>>>>> >>>>>>> macOS Sierra 10.12 >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 29 Sep. 2016, at 1:18 pm, Graham Rabe <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I’ve upgraded to Sierra and all of my data in my previous “Documents” >>>>>>>> folder previously on my hard drive (in Finder under Documents”) is now >>>>>>>> only available in iCloud (where there is now a “Documents” folder). >>>>>>>> There is no longer a “Documents” folder listed anywhere on my hard >>>>>>>> drive. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I’ve gone to System Preferences - iCloud and see that I can change >>>>>>>> that scenario (under Options). >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> What I can’t figure out is that at the bottom of that Options box it >>>>>>>> states that “The full contents of iCloud Drive will be stored on this >>>>>>>> Mac if you have enough space. Older documents will be stored only in >>>>>>>> iCloud when space is needed.” >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I have more than enough space on my hard drive. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> In the Finder menu, when I select “Go” for “Documents” - it shows the >>>>>>>> documents in the iCloud section. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> My question is: where in Finder do I find all of my documents on my >>>>>>>> hard drive? Where are they “stored”? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Any views/recommendations about allowing all documents to be stored >>>>>>>> only on iCloud under this new regime would be appreciated. What and >>>>>>>> the hell happens when iCloud bombs out/is hacked etc etc? And if I use >>>>>>>> this iCloud method of saving all my data previously stored on the hard >>>>>>>> drive under the “Documents” folder, what work is my local Time Machine >>>>>>>> able to do by way of backing up (and/or other external drives that I >>>>>>>> use for backup backups for that matter). >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Graham Rabe >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> iMac late 2012 >>>>>>>> macOS Sierra 10.12 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- >>>>>>> Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> >>>>>>> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> >>>>>>> Settings & Unsubscribe - >>>>>>> <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug> >>>>>> >>>>>> Graham Rabe | Barrister & Solicitor | Commercial Litigation Consultant & >>>>>> Mediator >>>>>> Suite 94, 50 St Georges Terrace, Perth WA 6000 >>>>>> M: +61 417 949 825 >>>>>> E: [email protected] >>>>>> Skype: graham.rabe >>>>>> Web: www.rabe.com.au >>>>>> >>>>>> This e-mail communication and any attachment is intended only for the >>>>>> addressee and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential >>>>>> material. 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To the maximum >>>>>> extent permitted by the law, the sender does not accept liability for >>>>>> any errors or omissions in the contents of this e-mail communication >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Graham Rabe | Barrister & Solicitor | Commercial Litigation Consultant & >>>>> Mediator >>>>> Suite 94, 50 St Georges Terrace, Perth WA 6000 >>>>> M: +61 417 949 825 >>>>> E: [email protected] >>>>> Skype: graham.rabe >>>>> Web: www.rabe.com.au >>>>> >>>>> This e-mail communication and any attachment is intended only for the >>>>> addressee and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential >>>>> material. If you are not the addressee or intended recipient of the >>>>> communication, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail. Do >>>>> not read, copy, print, re-transmit, store or act in reliance on the >>>>> communication. 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To the maximum >>>>> extent permitted by the law, the sender does not accept liability for any >>>>> errors or omissions in the contents of this e-mail communication >>>>> >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Ronni >>>> >>>> 13-inch MacBook Air (April 2014) >>>> 1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz >>>> 8GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM >>>> 512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage >>>> >>>> macOS Sierra 10.12 >>>> >>>> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- >>>> Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> >>>> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> >>>> Settings & Unsubscribe - >>>> <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug> >>> >>> Graham Rabe | Barrister & Solicitor | Commercial Litigation Consultant & >>> Mediator >>> Suite 94, 50 St Georges Terrace, Perth WA 6000 >>> M: +61 417 949 825 >>> E: [email protected] >>> Skype: graham.rabe >>> Web: www.rabe.com.au >>> >>> This e-mail communication and any attachment is intended only for the >>> addressee and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential material. >>> If you are not the addressee or intended recipient of the communication, >>> please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail. 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