Hi everyone I really sweated on buying the new 12 inch Macbook 18 months ago. 512 GB internal drive Must say I’m really pleased with it! So light and easy to pull out in the middle of a meeting, in the lounge chair, in bed etc etc Don’t often have the need for plugging in peripherals, but when I do- the apple adaptors do the trick. Plug in a usb flash drive, a usb hard drive or a projector cable no worries.
Regarding managing photos: - I got to the stage where I now use Aperture to manage my Photo Library. I select the option to store my original files on an external drive and low res versions on the Macbook. Still have 50 GB free - but I’m a terrible hoarder! No longer making lots of movies. A teeny bit of Photoshop and plenty of Aperture, MacPhun Creative Kit and Plug-ins, Aurora HD a teeny bit etc When I do the School Newsletter I use the school 15 inch Macbook Pro - just for a bit of screen real-estate. cheers Blitto Rod Blitvich - Amy & Sam’s Dad . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Good Ideas 0409 681 256 rb...@iinet.net.au <x-msg://329/rb...@iinet.net.au> > On 31 Oct 2016, at 6:56 AM, Bill Parker <ren...@westnet.com.au> wrote: > > Like Daniel, I have been using Macintosh computers or various sorts for a > very long time. I have just bought a new MacBook Air 13” and for the first > time I have an SD card slot. What a change from all previous Mac Books etc. > Something that is REALLY useful is now a quick swap from the camera to the > Air. > > It is hard to know what drives the marketing department at Apple Central but > they clearly ignore the “if it ain’t broke don’t fix it” axiom. The one thing > they do not do (at least not obviously) is survey their dedicated users. > > Hands up anyone who is in favour of losing weight in favour of a box of > dongles. > > This new MacAir of mine is light enough and will not set me up for > overzealous ground staff at airports re-weighing my carry-on bag and > demanding it go the cargo hold “for safety”. > > The submit that the weight thing is a designer fetish. > > Bill > > > > > >> On 31 Oct 2016, at 06:10, Susan Hastings <shasti...@iinet.net.au >> <mailto:shasti...@iinet.net.au>> wrote: >> >> Hi all, I have had a chance to sort of live with USB-c using the first 12" >> MacBook which was going fairly cheaply for the base model when the new one >> came out (Officeworks). I have three different dongles, which all work >> without added power if you only use one external,drive, but need power pass >> through if you want to have another drive or are using the SD card slot to >> transfer images. I keep all my photos on external drives, so need two things >> to work at once. >> >> I took the MacBook on one caravan trip, but then took my 13" MacBook Pro the >> next time we went away because of the built in card reader and USB. I found >> the thought of getting out the MacBook and it's dongles, however small and >> light, a bit of a pain. >> >> The 12" is lovely to carry about as even the power brick is tiny and light >> to carry, but if I am processing lots of photos it's nice to go back to my >> 13". I knew the 12" MacBook would not be powerful enough to replace the 13", >> so always intended to keep both and recently upgraded the 13" with a 1tb SSD >> drive, up from a 128gig SSD that it came with. I have the old Apple display >> that I e had for many years when I need a larger monitor. >> >> The 13" will have to do me for at least a couple more years until USB-C is >> more widely used. >> >> Cheers, Susan >> >> >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >>> On 31 Oct. 2016, at 2:53 am, Daniel Kerr <dan...@macwizardry.com.au >>> <mailto:dan...@macwizardry.com.au>> wrote: >>> >>> Just to weigh in on some of this. >>> I’m also looking to upgrade myself as well. (still using an upgraded >>> MacBook Pro 15” (Late 2012). And I’ve been doing “the figures” to see how >>> it all works out also. >>> I was a little disappointed with the pricing myself as well, and the “loss” >>> of ports also. Things which I find I still use on a fairly daily basis with >>> my work. So having to have a stack of adapters myself to carry around is a >>> a bit of a pain. >>> And I’m sure the price has increased a bit as well. (though I’m looking at >>> the top model with 1TB drive and the 4GB graphics.). >>> I was comparing this to the price for the “just superseded” model. And >>> there really isn’t that much difference in it between the old one and the >>> new (bar the adapters of course). So have been weighing up which may be the >>> better option there. (and looking at the budget of course,….lol). >>> >>> In regards to the dongles. >>> Belkin are also bringing out a “dock” themselves as well - >>> http://www.belkin.com/au/p/P-F4U095/ >>> >>> One of the other “adapters” I was also looking at is the following - >>> https://www.hypershop.com/collections/usb-type-c/products/hyperdrive-usb-type-c-hub-with-4k-hdmi-support?variant=24737850502 >>> The thing I like with this one is it doesn’t require a power supply and is >>> at least slightly more portable (and smaller), so easier to throw in a bag. >>> >>> In regards to the “upgrading later”, so far the only thing I’ve seen is for >>> the 13” MacBook Pro without the Touch Bar, which has mentioned that the SSD >>> can be possibly upgraded later (with a bit of fiddling around to get it). >>> They haven’t so far said anything about the ones with Touch Bar as yet. (as >>> they haven’t shipped, so can’t pull them apart as yet). >>> Given that most of those models use a type of PCI-E Flash Drive, I’d be >>> surprised if it a) can be done and b) would cost an arm an a leg. >>> Same with the upgrade price. As the 2TB Flash Drve/SSD is still new, the >>> pricing is still quite expensive. Certainly external drives in 2TB form are >>> cheaper, however a) these are generally not SSD, they’re stock standard >>> spinning drives, and b) even a normal “SSD” is different to a smaller PCI-E >>> type Flash Storage. (as they’re a lot smaller then the normal SSD). Just >>> something to compare, Just to weigh in on some of this. >>> I’m also looking to upgrade myself as well. (still using an upgraded >>> MacBook Pro 15” (Late 2012). And I’ve been doing “the figures” to see how >>> it all works out also. >>> I was a little disappointed with the pricing myself as well, and the “loss” >>> of ports also. Things which I find I still use on a fairly daily basis with >>> my work. So having to have a stack of adapters myself to carry around is a >>> a bit of a pain. >>> And I’m sure the price has increased a bit as well. (though I’m looking at >>> the top model with 1TB drive and the 4GB graphics.). >>> I was comparing this to the price for the “just superseded” model. And >>> there really isn’t that much difference in it between the old one and the >>> new (bar the adapters of course). So have been weighing up which may be the >>> better option there. (and looking at the budget of course,….lol). >>> >>> In regards to the dongles. >>> Belkin are also bringing out a “dock” themselves as well - >>> http://www.belkin.com/au/p/P-F4U095/ >>> >>> One of the other “adapters” I was also looking at is the following - >>> https://www.hypershop.com/collections/usb-type-c/products/hyperdrive-usb-type-c-hub-with-4k-hdmi-support?variant=24737850502 >>> The thing I like with this one is it doesn’t require a power supply and is >>> at least slightly more portable (and smaller), so easier to throw in a bag. >>> >>> In regards to the “upgrading later”, so far the only thing I’ve seen is for >>> the 13” MacBook Pro without the Touch Bar, which has mentioned that the SSD >>> can be possibly upgraded later (with a bit of fiddling around to get it). >>> They haven’t so far said anything about the ones with Touch Bar as yet. (as >>> they haven’t shipped, so can’t pull them apart as yet). >>> Given that most of those models use a type of PCI-E Flash Drive, I’d be >>> surprised if it a) can be done and b) would cost an arm an a leg. >>> Same with the upgrade price. As the 2TB Flash Drve/SSD is still new, the >>> pricing is still quite expensive. Certainly external drives in 2TB form are >>> cheaper, however a) these are generally not SSD, they’re stock standard >>> spinning drives, and b) even a normal “SSD” is different to a smaller PCI-E >>> type Flash Storage. (as they’re a lot smaller then the normal SSD). Just >>> something to compare, as you can’t really match a normal spinning drive >>> against something like an SSD etc. >>> (I’ve got an external 500GB SSD in a thunderbolt case and it walks all over >>> my standard USB3 1TB “normal hard drive" external drive. Read and Write >>> speeds are a HUGE difference between the two). So with an internal PCI-E >>> Flash Storage, this would also be a difference to a $200 external 2TB drive >>> I would imagine. (I could be wrong Rob as I don’t know the type of drive >>> you have, but given the prices I’ve seen around, I’d be surprised if it was >>> SSD etc). >>> But yes, I find the Apple upgrade price on those (even given the >>> technology), is a little high. >>> >>> I certainly like some of the new things in the new laptops, but I’m finding >>> it difficult to be “positive” about some of the changes too. (my personal >>> opinion anyway). >>> Given how Apple always used to push the “tidiness” of the Mac. (remember >>> the Apple ad showing the PC with all the millions of cords then the camera >>> pans over to the “bubble iMac” with it’s power cable and USB keyboard and >>> mouse” and how they showed how loverly and tidy it all was), where as now, >>> we’re all about external and dongles and cables etc etc etc. >>> And like some of the comments I’ve read say - you can’t even go in and buy >>> a brand new iPhone 7 and a brand new MacBook Pro 15” and connect the two >>> straight out of the box. You’ve got to add a dongle to the order to make >>> the two talk to each other! (Yet you can get an iPhone 7 and plug it >>> straight into a Microsoft Surface Tablet). >>> Yes, I know I can use Wi-Fi sync between the laptop and iPhone, but if I >>> want to sync and charge the phone at the same time,..sorry, dongle time. >>> After reading over 20 pages of forum posts, there hasn’t been a lot of >>> positive mentioned…… >>> And I know Apple loving looking into the future, but I personally would >>> have liked this “Revision 1” new MacBook Pro to perhaps kept the MagSafe >>> charger, Thunderbolt3/USB-C, USB3 port and perhaps even an SD Card slot (to >>> add in an extra 256GB storage SD if you wanted). >>> As that was also a big push with Apple. Hey, …..this great MagSafe adapter. >>> If someone trips of your cable,…no problem! The power cable just comes off, >>> and the laptop stays where it is. I don’t think the same can be said for >>> the new USB-C Charger,….(I could be wrong). >>> I’m sure as more cables and things come out USB-C will be more common >>> place, and then things will be better to connect. I just think it’s a >>> little earlier for some of them. >>> And most people would much prefer a slightly larger in size laptop with >>> more “Features” or things added. At what point do we really need to drop a >>> few more millimetres off the size of the laptop. Can’t be we have features >>> and performance over “light weight, smaller size”. >>> >>> I love the Mac, don’t get me wrong, and I’d be hard pressed to move to >>> anything else,…..I just feel that some of these things have “lost their >>> way”. I’ve been using Apple since 1984 and the first Mac 128K, so I’ve seen >>> a lot of it’s ups and downs. It’s just a bit more of a worry lately with >>> where their focus is going with these things. (and don’t get me started on >>> dropping the nice Apple monitors for the LG. Sure, they have some nice >>> features,…they just don’t look as nice). Hmm, does that comment just >>> completely override everything I said before,…lol. Well, maybe. Maybe I >>> want a nice looking monitor with all the features, and a slightly thicker >>> laptop with better battery, more ports. :) >>> I read another post somewhere where a person asked why the new MacBook Pro >>> didn’t have the option to build to order it up to 32GB of RAM. Phil >>> Schiller's answer was,…"because it would consume more power and wouldn’t be >>> efficient enough for a notebook” >>> Umm,…hey, here’s an idea. Make it slightly thicker for a better battery. :) >>> Most people wouldn’t even notice a few extra mm’s here and there for longer >>> life etc. :)) >>> >>> OK, I think I’ll end it there before it sounds all too negative. (It’s not >>> meant to be,…hehe). >>> Now I’m back to working out more figures and budget to see what laptop I >>> want to go with. :)) (And I couldn’t go back to a 13” after using a 15” all >>> the time,….lol). >>> >>> Enjoy! >>> >>> Kind regards >>> Daniel >>> --- >>> Daniel Kerr >>> MacWizardry >>> >>> Phone: 0414 795 960 >>> Email: <daniel AT macwizardry.com.au> >>> Web: <http://www.macwizardry.com.au> >>> >>> >>> **For everything Apple** >>> >>> NOTE: Any information provided in this email may be my personal opinion and >>> as such should be taken accordingly, and may not be the views of >>> MacWizardry. Any information provided does not offer or warrant any form of >>> warranty or accept liability. It would be appreciated that if any >>> information in this email is to be disseminated, distributed or copied, >>> that permission by the author be requested. >>> >>>> On 30 Oct 2016, at 10:44 pm, Rob Phillips <r.phill...@iinet.net.au> wrote: >>>> >>>> Re dongles. A colleague suggested: >>>> i’m using a caldigit thunderbolt2 box & that gives me >>>> >>>> audio stereo in/out 1x >>>> usb 3x >>>> e-sata 2x >>>> cat5 / rj45 / lan 1x >>>> hdmi 1x >>>> >>>> that means 1box & power pack you have to lug around….. >>>> >>>> But still - $1920 for an internal 2TB drive upgrade is ridiculous. I >>>> bought an external one for $200 last year. I'll investigate more before I >>>> buy... >>>> >>>> >>>>> On 30/10/2016 10:18 pm, Brian Risbey wrote: >>>>> Hello Ronni, Susan and Rob, >>>>> I will be getting one of these MacBookPro 15”. As I mentioned, $6k is >>>>> expensive but that has been the same price of the top specced models for >>>>> the last 20 years when I purchased my last 3 Apple laptops, starting with >>>>> a PowerBook 5300, a MacBookPro 15”, then my current 17”. I see that as >>>>> becoming ‘cheaper’, factoring in inflation. I get 6 to 8 years out of the >>>>> machines, which are used daily at work or at home. >>>>> I will wait until the new year, when demand settles and I start back to >>>>> work. I think maxing out a machine speed is good idea and it appears that >>>>> ,in some initial reports, they may be upgradeable in the SSD storage area >>>>> but not RAM, after purchase. A few choice dongles to connect to VGA >>>>> overhead projectors and off I go. (Hope they exist!) >>>>> >>>>> Brian >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 30 Oct 2016, at 21:39, Ronda Brown <ro...@mac.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi Rob, Susan and Brian, >>>>> >>>>> The new MacBook Pros with two Thunderbolt 3 ports on each side, all four >>>>> of which can be used for charging and expansion. (And no, it won’t charge >>>>> faster if you plug in two chargers; it just picks one.) >>>>> >>>>> Thunderbolt 3, which provides throughput up to 40 Gbps, uses the same >>>>> connector as USB-C and supports DisplayPort (and thus HDMI and VGA, plus >>>>> Thunderbolt 2, via adapters) and USB 3.1 Gen 2, which runs at 10 Gbps and >>>>> is backward compatible with older USB devices. >>>>> These new machines can drive two 5K displays or four 4K displays. >>>>> That’s impressive. >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Ronni >>>>> Sent from Ronni's iPad4 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On 30 Oct. 2016, at 6:04 pm, Rob Phillips <r.phill...@iinet.net.au> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> He doesn't hold back, does he? :-\ >>>>>> >>>>>> Rob >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 30/10/2016 7:30 am, Susan Hastings wrote: >>>>>>> Hi Rob, you might like to read Mike Johnson's comments on the new >>>>>>> MacBook Pros. It's the second article down on his blog page. That is, >>>>>>> if you are interested in someone who shares your dismay at Apple's >>>>>>> choices... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://theonlinephotographer.typepad.com/the_online_photographer/blog_index.html >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sent from my iPad >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 28 Oct. 2016, at 9:18 pm, Brian RISBEY <risb...@bigpond.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi Rob >>>>>>>> I did exactly the same sums this morning, $6k+ but then I considered >>>>>>>> external SSD hard drives and speed of connection ports and maybe just >>>>>>>> 1Tb internal drive might do. >>>>>>>> My PowerBook 5300 cost $5k in the early 90s :-) >>>>>>>> Over the years all my maxed out MacBooks 15" & 17" have been close to >>>>>>>> $6k. So, they are in fact becoming cheaper, relatively speaking. The >>>>>>>> last, a 17", now 8 years old, is still humming along. >>>>>>>> I don't know how upgradable this new one will be. Has ifixit torn one >>>>>>>> down yet? Maxing a special build maybe your only option if you don't >>>>>>>> want an external drive. >>>>>>>> My 2c worth, (& the other $6499.98) >>>>>>>> Brian Risbey >>>>>>>> 🌊🏊 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 28 Oct. 2016, at 18:57, Rob Phillips <r.phill...@iinet.net.au> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi everyone >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I've just been looking at the new Macbook Pro. It looks pretty cool, >>>>>>>> but what about the price? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The top of range machine costs A$4,249.00 for 512Gb storage. I've got >>>>>>>> 400Gb of photos! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> And then they want A$1,920.00 to upgrade to a 2TB SSD drive... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> This is up to the price level that the first Mac IIs were in the late >>>>>>>> 1980s... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> And then there's nothing in the box to connect my existing devices to. >>>>>>>> I've got to buy all sorts of adaptors (from $30 to $110) to keep >>>>>>>> working... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Are Apple going to price themselves out of the market? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Do I have to carry around al sorts of cables and 3rd party devices to >>>>>>>> use my computer as I move around? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Any ideas about how to resolve the issue? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Rob >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Dr Rob Phillips >>>>>>>> Sessional tutor >>>>>>>> School of Education, Curtin University >>>>>>>> rob.phill...@curtin.edu.au >>>>>>>> Life member, Australasian Society for Computers in Learning in >>>>>>>> Tertiary Education >>>>>>>> Fellow, Higher Education Research and Development Society of >>>>>>>> Australasia> >>>>> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- >>>>> Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> >>>>> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> >>>>> Settings & Unsubscribe - >>>>> <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- >>>>> Archives - >>>>> <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> >>>>> >>>>> Guidelines - >>>>> <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> >>>>> >>>>> Settings & Unsubscribe - >>>>> <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug> >>>> >>>> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- >>>> Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> >>>> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> >>>> Settings & Unsubscribe - >>>> <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug> >>> >>> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- >>> Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> >>> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> >>> Settings & Unsubscribe - >>> <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug> >> >> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- >> Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml >> <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml>> >> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> >> Settings & Unsubscribe - >> <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug> > > Bill Parker > 0403 583 676 > ren...@westnet.com.au <mailto:ren...@westnet.com.au> > > > <BFS logo.jpg> > Darling Range BFB > > -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- > Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> > Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> > Settings & Unsubscribe - > <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug>
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