> On 9 Aug 2017, at 11:14 am, Allen <all...@amnet.net.au> wrote:
> Hi Ronnie
> The Sierra Installer did not present the "All your files in iCloud " screen 
> so I didn't get a chance to deselect it.  On my account System Preferences 
> shows shows iCloud Drive unticked which is fine. When I logged onto my wife's 
> account System Preferences has iCloud Drive ticked which is what I was trying 
> to avoid.
> I have unticked the iCloud Drive box and have been given 3 choices and a 
> warning documents stored on the iCloud will be removed from this Mac
> -Keep a copy
> -cancel
> -Remove from Mac
> I haven't chosen any of these yet as I am unsure what to do next. Will some 
> of Carolyn's files already been removed from the Mac and if so how do I get 
> them back?
> I'd appreciate some advice on what to do next please
> Cheers Allen

Hi Allen,

At the end of the installation of Sierra and your Mac restarts in Sierra, you 
are finishing through the Setup Assistant, and signing in with Apple ID /iCloud 
If you’ve already signed in to your iCloud account by this point in the 
installation, Sierra asks if you want it to store all the files from your 
Documents and Desktop folders in iCloud Drive; it tells you how much storage 
this will require at this time and whether you’ll need to upgrade your iCloud 
storage plan to accommodate that data.

What were you told, how much storage this will require and whether you’ll need 
to upgrade your iCloud storage plan?

In System Preferences > iCloud > iCloud Drive > Options, did you deselect both 
‘Desktop & Documents Folders’ at the top of the list and the ‘Optimize Mac 
Storage’ checkbox at the bottom?

Are all your wife’s desktop files still sitting on her Desktop?
Are all her Documents still in her Documents Folder?
In her Finder Window under Favourites the Left Side column - Is there a ‘iCloud 
Drive’ icon?

Now depending if your wife’s files are in the process of being uploaded to 
iCloud Drive or not I need your reply to my above questions before I can 
further advise you how to correct the situation.


> On 08/08/2017, at 11:02 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:
>> Hi Allen,
>> Yes, stop your CCC Backups & turn Time Machine backups off, after you do 
>> your final backups and disconnect any external drives, prior to downloading 
>> & installing Sierra.
>> I suggest you wait until you have installed and thoroughly tested Sierra 
>> before commencing your CCC & Time Machine backup routine.
>> Cheers,
>> Ronni
>> Sent from Ronni's iPad4
>> On 8 Aug 2017, at 10:08 am, Allen <all...@amnet.net.au 
>> <mailto:all...@amnet.net.au>> wrote:
>>> Hi Ronni
>>> Mm well obviously I haven't done enough preparation. Thank you very much 
>>> for your instructions. I have printed them out and will work carefully 
>>> through them
>>> Our backups consist of 2 CCC bootable backups daily to 2 different discs 
>>> and 2 Time Machines alternately to different discs which I hope will be 
>>> enough. I must remember to stop them while updating
>>> Cheers Allen 
>>> iMac 2011 2.5Ghz Intel core i5
>>> 8 GB 1333Mhz DDR3
>>> On 07/08/2017, at 3:52 PM, Ronni Brown wrote:
>>>>> On 7 Aug 2017, at 2:02 pm, Allen <all...@amnet.net.au 
>>>>> <mailto:all...@amnet.net.au>> wrote:
>>>>> I am about to update our iMac from macOS 10.11.6  to OS 10.12.6
>>>>> Would some one please remind me at what point do I stop our files being 
>>>>> moved on to the iCloud?
>>>>> Is there anything else I should consider. We are fully backed up
>>>>> Regards Allen
>>>> Hi Allen,
>>>> You mention above that you are fully backed up, so I’m assuming you have a 
>>>> bootable backup included in your backup regime 
>>>> And you have done the normal preparations, and updated third-party 
>>>> software.
>>>> Run Disk Utility
>>>> Use Disk Utility in El Capitan or Later:
>>>> 1. Launch Disk Utility (in /Applications/Utilities).
>>>> 2. In the list on the left, select your startup volume (if it isn’t 
>>>> already selected), which is indented underneath the name of the device 
>>>> (hard drive or SSD) that contains it.
>>>> 3. Click First Aid on the toolbar, and then click Run. Disk Utility checks 
>>>> your disk and repairs it if necessary.
>>>> 4. When the repair is finished, click Done and quit Disk Utility. 
>>>> —
>>>> Download Sierra on the Destination Mac:
>>>> The Sierra installer downloads to your /Applications folder—a process that 
>>>> could take anywhere from minutes to days, depending on the bandwidth of 
>>>> your broadband connection.
>>>> After it downloads, the installer launches automatically.
>>>> But you’re not ready to install Sierra quite yet, so choose Install macOS 
>>>> Sierra > Quit Install macOS Sierra to quit the installer for the time 
>>>> being.
>>>> The installer deletes itself after installing only when both of the 
>>>> following are true:
>>>> • The installer is in /Applications on your startup volume.
>>>> • You do an in-place upgrade of your startup volume.
>>>> If you put the installer anywhere else—your Desktop, or ~/Downloads, or 
>>>> wherever—it won’t be deleted after it runs. Even so, because that big file 
>>>> is valuable, I urge you to make a copy just in case the unexpected should 
>>>> happen.
>>>> So, before you do anything else, you should either Command-drag the 
>>>> installer to move it from /Applications to another location (so it won’t 
>>>> be deleted automatically, no matter what), or Option-drag the installer to 
>>>> copy it to another location—preferably another volume—so if it is deleted, 
>>>> you’ll have a spare. 
>>>> Installing Sierra:
>>>> In the process of upgrading to Sierra, the installer will invite you to 
>>>> turn iCloud Drive feature on. (The relevant installer screen is titled 
>>>> “All your files in iCloud,” and the single checkbox “Store files from 
>>>> Documents and Desktop in iCloud Drive” is selected by default.) 
>>>> Deselect this during the Sierra upgrade!
>>>> And after installing the Sierra upgrade, check System Preferences > iCloud 
>>>> - that iCloud Drive is NOT ticked!
>>>> The first thing I do after installing a OS X update & iOS update is check 
>>>> that iCloud Drive is NOT ON… & turn if OFF if it is.
>>>> I use iCloud for just about everything else - but NOT “iCloud Drive”!
>>>> Preform Post-Installation Tasks:
>>>> Respond to immediate questions. Among the most common questions are 
>>>> requests for your user account password or Apple ID password. For example, 
>>>> certain apps may once again need an administrator’s authorization to make 
>>>> changes to your data, and various apps that use your Apple ID (including 
>>>> iTunes and iBooks) may need you to sign in again.
>>>> Tip: Even if you’re not prompted, it’s a good idea to check System 
>>>> Preferences > iCloud to make sure you’re signed in to iCloud (and with the 
>>>> correct Apple ID). Do the same in iTunes (Account > View My Account) and 
>>>> the App Store (Store > View My Account).
>>>> Work your way through any such dialogs you see, even if they seem 
>>>> redundant. After that one-time process, most of them will not reappear.
>>>> Handle Software Updates:
>>>> The next thing you should do is to update macOS itself (and any other 
>>>> crucial Apple software) to the latest version. Sometimes Apple releases 
>>>> bug fixes and security updates almost immediately after a major upgrade, 
>>>> and if any such urgent updates are available, it’s in your best interest 
>>>> to install them right away.
>>>> In Sierra, as in every version of OS X since Mountain Lion, all updates to 
>>>> Apple software—including macOS itself, built-in software such as Safari 
>>>> and QuickTime, and optional purchases such as Final Cut Pro and Pages—are 
>>>> delivered through the App Store app. And, of course, you can update all 
>>>> the third-party apps you’ve purchased from the App Store at the same time.
>>>> In some cases, the App Store notifies you automatically of updates, but I 
>>>> recommend checking manually, shortly after your Mac starts up under Sierra 
>>>> for the first time.
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Ronni
>>>> 13-inch MacBook Air (April 2014)
>>>> 1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz
>>>> 8GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM
>>>> 512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage
>>>> macOS Sierra 10.12.6

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