Hi Ronni,

Yes I have done that (lots of language files in trash) cleared trash can and 
restarted and now there is
a difference before/after almost 2GB.

Thanks again,

Cheers
Walter

> On 3 Apr 2018, at 21:15 , Ronda Brown <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> After you set the Preference to ‘Move language files to Trash’.
> Check what free/available space is on your Hard Drive by selecting the Hard 
> Drive icon at top right on Desktop and then ‘Get Info’ take note of the 
> ‘available free space’.
> 
> Then when you ran Monolingual again... after it completed were there any 
> language files in your Trash?
> There should have been and you need to delete the trash and you should then 
> notice in Finder ‘Get Info’ on your Hard Drive would show there is more 
> available space.
> 
> I mentioned below why I think Monolingual is having issues with the ‘Helper 
> Tool’.
> 
> Restart you Mac and Run Monolingual again.
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> 
>  Ronni Brown’s iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB 
> 
> 
>> On 3 Apr 2018, at 6:33 pm, FW <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Ronni,
>> 
>> Yes I did read the “Read me”. There was much information about the previous 
>> versions etc.
>> I can’t remember seeing anything about “Move language files to trash”. And 
>> it did of course
>> talk about selecting files to be removed - which were already selected.
>> However, before attempting the second run I went into preferences and did 
>> set move files to trash. Did not select automatic updates. But the result 
>> was the same - the 1byte removed response.
>> So does it mean that Monolingual won’t give you a second chance ?
>> 
>> Thanks Ronni.
>> 
>> Cheers
>> Walter
>> 
>> 
>>> On 3 Apr 2018, at 18:09 , Ronni Brown <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi Walter,
>>> 
>>> Did you read the document “MONOLINGUAL 1.8.0 Read me” that came with 
>>> Monolingual installation? 
>>> Monolingual should NOT be used unless you first read everything about it, 
>>> as used incorrectly it can do serious damage to the operating system.
>>> 
>>> Did you set any of the Preferences in Monolingual > Preferences?
>>> Move Language Files to Trash?
>>> Automatically check for Updates?
>>> Monolingual Architectures?
>>> 
>>> On my MBA with keeping only English languages -English, English 
>>> (Australia), English (UK), English (US). My Trash had many 100’s of 
>>> language files in it. After I emptied the Trash -I gained approx. 1.3GB of 
>>> free Hard Drive space.
>>> ====================
>>> Pro Tip: Make sure that all English languages are deselected (including UK, 
>>> Australia, Canada, etc.). No matter which language you use natively on your 
>>> Mac, keep the English-based languages or you may risk having an incomplete 
>>> OS X installation.
>>> 
>>> Pro Tip: If you use Adobe programs, manually de-select their directories 
>>> from the removal process.
>>> ==========
>>> A bit of information in case you don’t understand System Integrity 
>>> Protection (SIP)
>>> System Integrity Protection (SIP) is a security technology in OS X El 
>>> Capitan and later that's designed to help prevent potentially malicious 
>>> software from modifying protected files and folders on your Mac. 
>>> System Integrity Protection restricts the root user account and limits the 
>>> actions that the root user can perform on protected parts of the Mac 
>>> operating system.
>>> You can read all parts of the system SIP protects at this Apple support 
>>> link: <https://support.apple.com/en-au/HT204899>
>>> 
>>> One part System Integrity Protection includes protection for is /System 
>>> I am thinking this ‘might’ be why Monolingual is having ‘issues’ with the 
>>> ‘Helper Tool’.
>>> 
>>> I’ve looked at the Monolingual Logs on my MBA after I’ve completed 
>>> ‘removing unneeded language localization files’ and it does show hundreds 
>>> of language “lproj” Trashed files.
>>> 
>>> Your Monolingual Log file can be located at ~/Library/Logs/Monolingual.log
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Ronni
>>> 
>>> 13-inch MacBook Air (April 2014)
>>> 1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz
>>> 8GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM
>>> 512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage
>>> 
>>> macOS High Sierra 10.13.4
>>> 
>>>> On 30 Mar 2018, at 1:07 pm, FW <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Ronni,
>>>> 
>>>> I followed your advice and now have available 243GB. I even deleted EyeTV 
>>>> recordings that had already been
>>>> exported into iTunes.
>>>> With the Monolingual I am not sure if it has really done the job ?
>>>> I was under the impression that the ticked files would be removed. Only 
>>>> English and some euro languages I
>>>> left unticked. After clicking the Remove button it took some time and then 
>>>> the following message was
>>>> displayed: “Space saved: 1 byte”
>>>> I closed Monolingual and opened it again and all the files were still 
>>>> listed with the ticks in place.
>>>> When I open System Preferences >Language & Region I can see the languages 
>>>> after clicking on the + to add
>>>> more to the “Preferred languages” Is this a valid way of checking for 
>>>> available languages ?
>>>> 
>>>> Confused again
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers
>>>> Walter
>>>> 
>>>>> On 27 Mar 2018, at 20:40 , FW <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Just cleared download folder and then trash, now 177GB available, will 
>>>>> attend to your other suggestions
>>>>> on w/end.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks and happy easter.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Walter
>>>>> ******************************************
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 27 Mar 2018, at 18:09 , Ronda Brown <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi Walter,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I prefer to have my Photos & iPhoto libraries & iTunes library on my 
>>>>>> Macs and not running them from an External Drive.
>>>>>> But some people do so successfully.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The absolute VERY minimum free space some say is 15%... I would NEVER 
>>>>>> recommend any of my clients, friends or WAMUG people run their Macs at 
>>>>>> 15% available space.
>>>>>> I prefer to have at the very least 25% available space on my Macs.
>>>>>> Macs running latest Operating systems need a lot of free space to run 
>>>>>> well and fast.
>>>>>> ‘Lean & Mean’ is the way to have a Mac operating at its maximum ;-)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> So Walter your Mac’s HD is very close to the 15% (150GB).
>>>>>> The unneeded language localization files will give you probably 1-2GB 
>>>>>> extra.
>>>>>> I would then run WhatSize app to give you details of where the used is 
>>>>>> being used.
>>>>>> It’s a good starting point.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Uninstall old applications you haven’t used & never will again, archive 
>>>>>> mail attachments & years old mail. Make sure the Trash is empty, the 
>>>>>> Download Folder is empty.
>>>>>> Only the HD and ‘One’ folder on the Desktop. ‘That One Folder’ on the 
>>>>>> Desktop can have other folders inside it if required.
>>>>>> There are lots of items that need regularly cleaned up & ‘culled’.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Ronni
>>>>>>  Ronni Brown’s iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 27 Mar 2018, at 5:19 pm, FW <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi Ronni,
>>>>>>> I have a question on the same subject.
>>>>>>> My HD on the 2009 iMac is 1TB and available now is 157GB.
>>>>>>> Enough ? Or should I look at moving iTunes files or iPhoto files to an 
>>>>>>> ext/HD ?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I am also now looking at the language file situation.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>> Walter
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hi Rosemary,
>>>>>>>> 15.2GB is nowhere near enough available space. Are you running High 
>>>>>>>> Sierra?
>>>>>>>> You need to free up space ASAP, or you will be having problems.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Do you have WhatSize.app version 6.6.3 (which is compatible with High 
>>>>>>>> Sierra)?
>>>>>>>> If not you can download it from this link: https://whatsizemac.com/
>>>>>>>> WhatSize will show you what is taking up the space on your MBP Hard 
>>>>>>>> Drive.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Also did you remove unneeded language localization files on your MBP.
>>>>>>>> I always remove the unneeded language localization files from my Macs.
>>>>>>>> I only keep All the English - English (Australia), English (United 
>>>>>>>> Kingdom), English (United States).
>>>>>>>> If you only ever use English, there is no need to have all the other 
>>>>>>>> language files taking up valuable GBs of space.
>>>>>>>> I use Monolingual 1.8.0 to remove the thousand of unneeded language 
>>>>>>>> localization files.
>>>>>>>> You can check it out at this link: 
>>>>>>>> https://ingmarstein.github.io/Monolingual/
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Run WhatSize 6.6.3 to show you details of the space use.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>> Ronni
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>  Ronni Brown’s iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 27 Mar 2018, at 3:58 pm, Rosemary Spark <[email protected]> 
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hi Ronni,
>>>>>>>>> 500 Flash storage  15.2 GB available
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>>>> Rosemary
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Rosemary Spark
>>>>>>>>> PO Box 781
>>>>>>>>> South Fremantle WA 6162 Australia
>>>>>>>>> Phone: + 61 ‭8 6397 6822‬
>>>>>>>>> Mobile: 0414268043
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 27 March 2018 at 12:43, Ronda Brown <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Hi Rosemary,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> What storage do you have on your MacBook Pro 14,2 and how much 
>>>>>>>>> Available Space?
>>>>>>>>> Storage    256, 512 GB, or 1 TB flash storage?
>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>> Ronni
>>>>>>>>>  Ronni Brown’s iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On 27 Mar 2018, at 9:29 am, Rosemary Spark <[email protected]> 
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Hi there,
>>>>>>>>>> I have a Macbook pro which is running out of space. Now Photos is 
>>>>>>>>>> 232 GB. How do I safely move/copy  to a hard drive (without losing 
>>>>>>>>>> stuff) and what do I do then re backup etc. It's far too big to add 
>>>>>>>>>> to icloud!
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Also any other suggestions for slimming down (apart from obvious, 
>>>>>>>>>> ...nothing much on desktop, emptying caches, trash; getting rid of 
>>>>>>>>>> programmes I don't use)
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Model Name:    MacBook Pro
>>>>>>>>>> Model Identifier:    MacBookPro14,2
>>>>>>>>>> Processor Name:    Intel Core i5
>>>>>>>>>> Processor Speed:    3.1 GHz
>>>>>>>>>> Number of Processors:    1
>>>>>>>>>> Total Number of Cores:    2
>>>>>>>>>> L2 Cache (per Core):    256 KB
>>>>>>>>>> L3 Cache:    4 MB
>>>>>>>>>> Memory:    8 GB
>>>>>>>>>> Boot ROM Version:    MBP142.0169.B00
>>>>>>>>>> SMC Version (system):    2.44f1
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Rosemary Spark
>>>>>>>>>> PO Box 781
>>>>>>>>>> South Fremantle WA 6162 Australia
>>>>>>>>>> Phone: + 61 ‭8 6397 6822‬
>>>>>>>>>> Mobile: 0414268043
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