My sincere condolences Ronni.

> On 10 Feb 2019, at 3:54 pm, Ronni Brown <ro...@mac.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Peter,
> 
> Unfortunately I’ll have to leave this post for someone else to help as I’m 
> coping with a death in my family (My dear sister in Melbourne died this 
> morning).
> ——
> By default, Time Machine does not back up external drives, but you can change 
> this.
> 
> You can ensure that external drives are backed up by following these steps:
> 
> Open the Time Machine system preference pane.
> Click the Options button.
> Select any drive in the exclusion list that you want to have Time Machine 
> include.
> Click the - (minus) button to remove it. (Repeat for additional drives.)
> Click Save.
> That’s all you have to do.
> 
> The exclusions list is confusing, because you might want to only include 
> certain parts of an external drive. There’s no built-in way to make this 
> happen. Say you wanted to back up a Movies folder on an external drive, but 
> none of the five other top-level folders. You need to add each of those other 
> top-level folders in the Exclude list by clicking the + sign and then 
> selecting them one at a time.
> 
> https://www.macworld.com/article/3153995/macs/how-to-make-sure-time-machine-backs-up-external-drives.html
>  
> <https://www.macworld.com/article/3153995/macs/how-to-make-sure-time-machine-backs-up-external-drives.html>
> 
> Kind regards,
> Ronni
> 
>  Ronni Brown’s iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB 
> 
> 
> On 10 Feb 2019, at 2:40 pm, Peter Crisp <petercr...@westnet.com.au 
> <mailto:petercr...@westnet.com.au>> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Ronnie, this is a good little app. It takes the app a little while to 
>> retrieve the detail for each backup but eventually I was able to see what 
>> had happened very clearly. The large backup had included the new library 
>> (~2GB) and the old library as well (~400GB) plus a mobile synch back up as 
>> well. The backup of the old library as I suspected was in there but is a 
>> complete waste of space, there was nothing in it which changed (at least by 
>> me). 
>> 
>> Having now confirmed this, is there a way to delete this recent Photos 
>> library backup and hence release the space?
>> 
>> I did note also that the TimeTracker only looks into the TC internal hard 
>> disc backups and not the additional hard drives plugged into the TC USB port 
>> for extra backup space. Is this a default setting and is there a way to look 
>> into the other drives containing backups? 
>> 
>> Regards
>> 
>> 
>> Pete
>> 
>> On 10 Feb 2019, at 12:54 pm, Ronni Brown <ro...@mac.com 
>> <mailto:ro...@mac.com>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Peter,
>>> 
>>> TimeTracker  0.6.2  - 04 Dec 2018
>>> 
>>> Version 0.6.2 released Dec 04, 2018
>>> 
>>> Version :
>>> Add workaround for Mojave issue resulting in permissions errors when 
>>> accessing the Time Machine preferences
>>> Remove some erroneous captions on the toolbar buttons
>>> Now notarized by Apple for Mojave
>>> 
>>> <https://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/36691/timetracker/version-history 
>>> <https://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/36691/timetracker/version-history>>
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Ronni
>>> 
>>> 13-inch MacBook Air (April 2014)
>>> 1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz
>>> 8GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM
>>> 512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage
>>> 
>>> macOS High Sierra 10.13.6
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 10 Feb 2019, at 12:24 pm, Peter Crisp <petercr...@westnet.com.au 
>>>> <mailto:petercr...@westnet.com.au>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Ronni, thanks for asking this one and sorry I wasn’t a little clearer. 
>>>> The two Photos libraries are on a 1TB external drive attached to the MBP 
>>>> USB port. The two libraries are the only two files on the external drive 
>>>> (formatted OSX Extend Journaled). The TM Options panel is set to include 
>>>> the external drive in the backup of Jo’s MBP.
>>>> 
>>>> The Time Machine Backup of Jo’s MBP is located on the Time Capsule (with 
>>>> 3TB internal drive) - so not sharing location with the Photos library. 
>>>> 
>>>> For many years this has worked faultlessly with the single library on the 
>>>> external drive, all I have done is created a new Photos library alongside 
>>>> the existing Jo’s Photos library.
>>>> 
>>>> It’s a puzzle. I do remember many years ago you let the group know of an 
>>>> app or program that allowed one to look into the contents of previous 
>>>> backups. If you’re able to remind me of this program, I can look into it 
>>>> directly and find out what the contents of that back up last night were.
>>>> 
>>>> Regards
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Pete
>>>> 
>>>> On 10 Feb 2019, at 11:43 am, Ronni Brown <ro...@mac.com 
>>>> <mailto:ro...@mac.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hello Peter,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I’m not sure if I understand your Time Machine Backup of these two Photos 
>>>>> Library’s?
>>>>> 
>>>>> WARNING: If a Photos library is located on an external drive, don’t use 
>>>>> Time Machine to store a backup on that external drive. 
>>>>> The permissions for your Photos library may conflict with those for the 
>>>>> Time Machine backup.
>>>>> 
>>>>> <https://support.apple.com/en-au/guide/photos/back-up-the-photos-library-pht6d60d10f/mac
>>>>>  
>>>>> <https://support.apple.com/en-au/guide/photos/back-up-the-photos-library-pht6d60d10f/mac>>
>>>>> 
>>>>> <https://support.apple.com/en-au/HT201517 
>>>>> <https://support.apple.com/en-au/HT201517>>
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Ronni
>>>>> 
>>>>> 13-inch MacBook Air (April 2014)
>>>>> 1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz
>>>>> 8GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM
>>>>> 512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage
>>>>> 
>>>>> macOS High Sierra 10.13.6
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 10 Feb 2019, at 10:47 am, Peter Crisp <petercr...@westnet.com.au 
>>>>>> <mailto:petercr...@westnet.com.au>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> HI, during Saturday i was consolidating the photos back up for my mother 
>>>>>> in law (she has no computer) using my wife’s MacBook Pro. My wife has 
>>>>>> her Photos library on an exclusive Photos only external 1TB drive. So I 
>>>>>> created a second library “Carol” on the external drive to import photos 
>>>>>> for my mother in law alongside the existing System library (420GB) for 
>>>>>> Jo. This import all went very successfully but the next time a TM backup 
>>>>>> came around, as expected it recognised the new library (~4GB) but the 
>>>>>> backup was ~460GB in size. Given that the original library was unchanged 
>>>>>> and nothing in particular was changed on the main SSD, why would TM 
>>>>>> decide the entire external drive plus other material it seems, needed 
>>>>>> backing up again. I connected it to the Ethernet to speed this process 
>>>>>> which finished during the night but I am puzzled why TM decided to 
>>>>>> apparently update such a large quantity of data. My TC 3TB drive is now 
>>>>>> down to 1.2TB remaining which is still plenty, but has copped 455GB it 
>>>>>> didn’t need to and reduced my balance unnecessarily. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Any clues why this would happen and how can I undo this other than 
>>>>>> blowing away the whole backup file and redoing a full new backup?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Pete
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>> 
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