Hi Rod … that is a very valid point.

   And a great idea in my opinion.
   I only use Facebook sparingly, but I am a member.
   I feel that this suggestion should be looked at.

   On 7 Aug 2024, at 4:40 pm, Rod Blitvich via WAMUG
   <[email protected]> wrote:

     WAMUG has been there for us for SO LONG.My gratitude to the various
     Committee members for all their work over the many years. I value the
     list and the knowledgeable contributions from Peter, Maureen, Daniel,
     Ronni and many others. It would be very sad to lose this community
   and
     this knowledge base.
     But you need to face the facts. WAMUG will die unless us oldies
   embrace
     Social Media. If a WAMUG Facebook group was formed, you would triple
     membership in a few months. Why not create a WAMUG Facebook Group as
   a
     trial for say 12 months and then evaluate the trial at the end of
   that
     period?
     If you want new blood then WAMUG needs to target people younger than
   us
     “oldies” – and guess where you will find them – on Social Media.
     Another possible alternative would be to use Microsoft Teams – I
     believe there is still a free version around.
     A WAMUG Facebook group can be Public or Private. It can have a Code
   of
     Conduct/ List of Rules. It can have 1 or more Moderators. People can
     “apply” to join the group and can also be removed from the group.
     So it is my view that you have 2 choices – 1)Go with Social Media OR
     2)Accept the demise of our wonderful group.
     Rod Blitvich  - Amy & Sam’s Dad
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     On 7 Aug 2024, at 9:02 AM, Peter Hinchliffe via WAMUG
     <[email protected]> wrote:
       WAMUG as an entity is reaching an impasse. WAMUG (Western
   Australian
       Macintosh Users Group) has been an incorporated body since 1984,
   ie,
       the birthdate of the Macintosh computer. Long-term members will
       remember the early meetings at UWA, and later Curtin University,
       through the efforts of Martin Hill, Shay Telfer, John Curry and
   many
       others. After Curtin started placing prohibitive costs on our use
   of
       their facilities, we moved our monthly meetings to ChristChurch
     Grammar
       School in Claremont until clashes with school activities and
     resultant
       parking problems forced to find somewhere else. Member Lyn Muir
     kindly
       offered us the use of her real estate business premises at ProWest
   in
       Willetton, until the premises had to be rationalised in response to
       business pressures from a market downturn. so we moved to a hall in
       Bull Creek. Through this time our numbers dwindled to a mere
   trickle
       until Covid-19 hit and forced us to abandon physical meetings
       altogether. Since that time we have been running our monthly
   meetings
       via Zoom, but we have never had more than 3 or 4 members attending,
       other than the committee. We have found that the effort required in
       coming up with meetings themes, paying for Zoom, etc, is is not
       justified given the one or two people that do regularly turn up, so
     we
       have greatly reduced the frequency of the meetings, which has not
       exactly been met with a flood of complaints.
       We now have a real problem: being an incorporated body, we are
       constitutionally required to hold an Annual General Meeting, and we
     are
       now well overdue to do this for 2024. Maureen Smith, our erstwhile
       President and now secretary, has declared that she will not be
       nominating for a position on the committee, thereby reducing our
     small,
       tired committee to 4: Bernard Barnwell (Treasurer), Pete Smith
     (Website
       updates), myself (President), and Daniel Kerr, who keeps this
   mailing
       list online and in order. Notwithstanding the fact that the
   remaining
       members are happy to retain their involvement, if no further
       nominations are received at the AGM our tiny committee will not
   meet
       our constitutional requirement of at least 5 members.
       Apart from this, we are desperate for some new blood. The current
       members are generally feeilng beyond their use-by dates, and it’s
     clear
       that it’s up to the exisiting membership to decide if we want to
       continue or not. The lifeblood of WAMUG in 2024 is this Maiiling
     List,
       and it is treasured by all those who contribute to it. It is
     certainly
       far less active than it was, but it really is all that remains of
     WAMUG
       is any real sense.
       If no-one is willing to step up to be a Committee member at the
       upcoming AGM these appear be our two options:
       1 Dissolving WAMUG, the associated mailing list and website.
       2 Changing WAMUG to an unincorporated entity in order to keep
     the
       mailing list.
       According to the Associations Incorporation Act 2015, we will need
   a
       Special Resolution meeting to dissolve or unincorporate WAMUG.
       Changing WAMUG to an unincorporated entity.
       This action Requires a Special Resolution meeting, and we still
   need
       people to run the organisation, but our current financial holdings
       cannot be retained and will need to be distributed according to the
       Associations Incorporation Act 2015, which effectively means we
   will
     be
       starting again from scratch.
       Whatever entity we decide to change into, we will still have to
     charge
       a fee for the mailing list. However, there is no insurance for an
       unincorporated entity so the people running WAMUG would be liable
   for
       its actions and results. We will also lose the use
       of [1]wamug.org.au as a Domain Name.
       Dissolving WAMUG
       This requires a Special Resolution meeting. Again, our current
       financial holdings will need to be distributed according to the
       Associations Incorporation Act 2015; and again, the website and
     mailing
       list will disappear.
       If you want to see WAMUG continue in any form, please give some
     careful
       consideration to what I've outlined above, and offering your
   services
       to the committee. These days, we are running most of our meetings
       online via Zoom, so there’s really no need even to leave the house!
     We
       desperately need some new blood on the committee and some new
       directions for the future. If nothing else, we need this list to
       continue.
       We area aiming to hold our Annual General Meeting on Tuesday 5th
       September by Zoom, in the absence of any better offers. Zoom
   details
       will be provided several days in advance.
       Kind Regards
       Peter Hinchliffe
       President,
       Western Australian Macintosh Users Group
     References
       1. http://wamug.org.au/
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   Stephen Chape
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