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From: "encosid" <enco...@yahoo.com>
To: <wanita-muslimah@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2010 10:35
Subject: Bls: [wanita-muslimah] NABI ISA ATUA JESUS AS ADALAH PENEMBUS DOSA 

saudara abdul latif yang baik,

betapa kejamnya tuhan
Dia mensyaratkan "pembunuhan seorang manusia" (yang dia utus sendiri untuk 
mengajak manusia bertakwa kepadanya) sebagai syarat pengampunan dosa manusia

hal ini seperti tradisi agama primitif
mengorbankan manusia agar dewa tidak marah

I know that I hung on the windy tree
For nine whole nigths
Wounded with the spear
dedicated to Odin 
Myself to Myself

Puisi ini menggambarkan suatu suasana upacara kurban bangsa Viking. Dahulu 
bangsa ini mendiami jazirah Skandinavia, bangsa pelaut ulung yang menemukan 
benua Amerika berabad-abad sebelum Columbus lahir di dunia. Bangsa Viking 
menyembah Odin, dewa perang. Sambil memegang pedang dalam keadaan sekarat 
menyeru nama Odin, agar supaya dapat masuk ke dalam Valhalla yang disediakan 
Odin, demikian keyakinan mereka. Bangsa ini melakukan upacara kurban dengan 
mengikatkan atau menggantung kurban pada pohon yang suci yang selalu digoyang 
angin. Kemudian kurban ditusuk dengan tombak. Kurban itu bukan binatang 
sembelihan, melainkan berupa manusia, seorang pendeta yang dianggap titisan 
Odin. Jadi terjadi hal yang unik dalam upacara ini, yaitu titisan Odin 
dipersembahkan kepada Odin. Myself to Myself. Tujuan upacara kurban menurut 
bangsa Viking itu ialah untuk mencuci dan menebus dosa manusia. Darah kurban 
merupakan suatu yang sakral. Inilah sacrifice. (Bandingkan dengan Theologi 
Paulus dari Tarsus: Jesus mati di palamg salib umtuk menebus dosa warisan dari 


Paganism, the Origin of Christian Theology
by H.Muh.Nur Abdurrahman
As a matter of fact, frankly speaking, every one can learn from the paganism 
about the origin of christian theology, the theology of Jesus Christ as the 
only begotten son, the saviour, the sin bearer, the redeemer who suffered 
death, through passion play which ended with crucifixion, for redemption of 
Sun-day is the day to worship the sun-god. Worship of the sun formed a most 
popular type of religion for the backward races of mankind. This grand and 
majestic luminary (the ancient egyptians called it Ra, or Re) appears to a 
nascent, half-cultured mind as a source of life and the lord of light, and the 
various phases through which it has to pass provide him occasions for giving 
expression to his inborn instincs of fear and hope and for celebrating 
festivals accordingly.
The sun begins to decline (in northern hemisphere) after the automnal equinox, 
and its decline reaches the last stage at the approach of the winter solstice, 
after which it again begins to increase in its light and warmth and ascends the 
horizon as if re-born in the underworld. This progress continues till the 
vernal equinox approaches, when days become of equal length with nights, and 
progress seems to be impeded. But the "crisis" is soon overcome; days becomes 
longer than night, meaning a final victory of the Lord of Light over the Prince 
of Darkness.
Thus among all sun-worshipping communities, the autumnal equinox became an 
occation of fear and grief, because of the belief that their deity had fallen 
into clutches of the demon of darkness. On the other hand, the winter solstice 
and vernal equinox (the corresponding festivals in christendom are christmas 
and easter) became the day of the "birth" of the Sun-God and the second day of 
his "triumph" over the prince of darkness.
Sun-worship was, at the time of the appearance of Jesus, the 
universally-prevelent religion of the roman empire, though the names given to 
the Sun-God in different countries were different. The well known Sun-Gods, 
whose worship had been popular in the mediterranian countires at one time or 
the other, are: Attis of Phygia, Adonis of Syria, Dionysius or Bacchus of 
Greece, Bel of Babylon, Horus of Egypt, Mithras or Mithra of Persia. Brief 
sketches of the legends of these Sun-gods will reveal the soueces of the 
Christian Legend.
He was regarded as "the only begotten Son "and Saviour". He was bled to death 
on march 24th at the foot of a pine-tree and his votaries believed that his 
blood had renewed the fertility of the earth, and thus brought a new life to 
humanity. He, however, rose from the dead, and his resurrection along with his 
death was celebrated by his votaries. Every year on the 24th day of March, they 
would first fasten his image to a pine-tree and then lay it in a tomb with 
wailing and mourning. On the next day they would find the tomb empty and 
celebrate the resurrection with the great rejoicing. Sacramental meal and 
baptism of blood was special feature of the festival of his cult.
Adonis or Tammuz
He was the "Saviour" of Syria. He suffered death for redemption of mankind, but 
rose again in the spring. His resurrection was commemorated by agreat annual 
festival. The old testament refers to the weeping and wailing of women over his 
idol (ezekiel,viii,14). His votaries called him the "crucified" tao (Divine 
Love Personified, vide: Mythology of the Aryan Nations, vol.ii.p.113). Tammuz 
belonged to that class of idols which originally design to represent the 
Promised Saviour.
Dionysius or Bacchus
He was the "only begotten son" of Jupiter (Zeus Pater, Zupitri, God the Father) 
and was born on December 25th. He was a redeemer, liberator and saviour. "It is 
I," so says Bacchus to mankind, "who guide you; it is I who protect you, and 
who save you; I am alpha and omega", vide: anacalypsis, vol.i.p.302.
Wine had an important place in the festival of his cult. He was slain for 
redeeming humanity and was called "the Slain One", "the sin bearer", the 
redeemer. His passion play was celebrated every year representing his death and 
Bel or Ba'al
He was the Sun-God of Babylon and the history of his life is extremely 
astonishing in so far as his passion play has a very close resemblance with the 
christian passion story even in details. Modern arhaelogical researches have 
brought to light some very bewildering facts which go to prove that babilonian 
mithology played an important role in the early stages of christianity. In 
1903-4, the german exavators at kala shergat, the site of ancient Assur, 
discovered two cuneiform documents. When deciphered, they were found to contain 
the narrative of passion play of Ba'al. An english journal, the Quest, London, 
January 1922 published its translation. These are some of them:
1. Ba'al is taken prisoner
1. Jesus is taken prisoner
2. Ba'al is tried in the house on the hall of justice  
2. Jesus is tried of the high priest and the hall of pilate
3. Ba'al is smitten
3. Jesus is scourged
4. Ba'al is led away to the mount
4. Jesus is led away to golgotha
11 a goddes sits with ba'al; she comes to tend him
11 Mary Magdalene and the other Mary sit before the tomb
13 ba'al again brought back to life (as the sunof spring); he comes again out 
of the mount
13 jesus' restoration to life, his rising from the grave (on sunday morning)
14 his chief feast in march at the spring equinox, is celebrated also as his 
triumph over the powers of darkness
14 his festival approximately at the spring equinox ia also celebrated as his 
triumph over the powers of darkness
horus of egypt was born on december 29th. He was slain, but came again to life 
after two or three days and three nights. Belief in the god-man in the form of 
horus became the chief element in egyptian religion, and remained for thousands 
of years the faith of the people through the tangled skein of religious life in 
egypt until horus passed into the form of the god-man jesus christ.
mithras or mithra
He was the sun-god of the persians, the perfect prototype of jesus christ in 
which christmas and easter were two most inportant festivals. This divine 
saviour's first worshippers were shepherd; and the day of his nativity was 
december 25th, His followers had seven sacraments of which the most important 
were baptism, confirmation and eucharist supper, at which the communicants 
partook of the divine mithra under the species of bread and wine.
Summarising the foregoing account of the pagan deities, especially the 
mediterranian sun-gods, we find the following fundamental points of resemblance 
between the lives of the pagan deities and the life of jesus:
1. They were born on or very near desember 25th
2. They were born in a cave or underground chamber
3. They were called by the names of light bringer, healer, madiator, saviour 
and deliverer
4. They were vanquished by the powers of darkness
5. They descended into hell or the underworld
6. They rose again from the dead, and became the pioneers of mankind to the 
heavenly world
7. Their lives were commemorated by eucharistic feasts.
The story, however, does not end here. Modern scholars have unearthed a vast 
mass of evidence which proves beyond doubt that not only the life of Chiristian 
Jesus but the whole superstructure of Christianity as such has been built up on 
pagan foundation. As a matter of fact, frankly speaking, christianity, as it 
has existed since the transformation wrought by the neo-platonist Paul, is 
simply a continuation of pre-christian paganism. And that is the whole story!!!
WaLlahu a'lamu bisshawab. 


Dari: abdul <latifabdul...@yahoo.com>
Kepada: wanita-muslimah@yahoogroups.com
Terkirim: Sab, 8 Mei, 2010 19:47:23

Bismilahirahmanirah iim

Seorang bertanya kpd saya apa makna ayat ALLAH dlm Bible yang mengatakan banhaw 
Nabi Jesus itu adalah penembus dosa2 manusia yang mati di atas salip?

Begini dari apa yang saya ketahui.
Setiap datangnya nabi2 ALLAH itu adalah untuk mengapuskan dosa2 manusia di bumi 
ini.Setipa manusia itu akan berdosa karena mereka Fitrah seorang manusia itu di 
ciptakan oleh ALLAH seorang yang manusia yang lemah dan mudah di pengaruhi oleh 
SETAN..seperti mula2 Nabi adam dan hawa yg terpengaruh oleh tipu setan di 
syurga,sehingga kedua nya harus keluar dari syurga dan turum kebumi...benar 

Dalam Bible dan Al quran dijelaskan sifat dan FITRAH manusia seperti binatang 
saja ; zuka berzina, membunuh, menzolimi, bertengkar, tamak , berebut makanan, 

Semua perbuaan2 biangatang itu ada dlm diri manusia sejak lair atau Fitrah 
manisa yang asli. perbuatan2 itu dikendalikan oleh Setan ..

Karena ALLAH sayang kpd Manusia==GOD LOVE US ALL== diberikan kitab pedoman 
hidup di dunia lewat Malaikat dan Rasul2nya.

Siapa2 yg mengikuti Rasul2nya,maka merekalah yang akan masuk syurga dan 
dosa2nya akan hapus atau berkurang, tergantung tingkat kebersihannya.

Dengan Kata lain, Nabi Isa dan Muhammad saw atau Nabi2 lainnya adalah seorang 
Rasul penembus dosa2 manusia .

Bukanlah berarti Nabi Isa itu akan mengapus dosa2 manusia semuanya ==TANPA 

Kalau kita sudah mengakui Nabi Jesus dan Muhammad saw sebagai PENYELAMAT 
manusia dari dosa2nya, dan mencintainya, sudah tentu semua ajaran2nya akan kita 
ikuti dgn baik,sebagai tanpa CINTA kpd Nabi2 dan ALLAH.

If we say we love ALLAH, Muhammad dan Jesus, but we hate people we are big lair.

If we love ALLAH,Muhammad, Jesus,Musa but we act like setan, we are big liar.

If we love ALLAH,Muhammad Jesus dan Musa, but Our Mouth still talk evil, we are 
big liar.

Jadi kalaun kita mencitai ALLAH,marim kita mengikuti dan mentaati peraturan2 
ALLAH dan beralku adil kpd semua Rasul2Nya.

Wassalamu'alaikum wrwb

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