Tantri yoga ini apa seperti yang dipraktekin grup2 yoga seperti siapa tuh 
namanya yg kemarin kesandung masalah? Kalo sudah menyangkut lembaga mesti 
dibuat kode etiknya. Tapi nggak kebayang gimana bikin kode etik utk tantri ini 
Tapi dari film kamasutra pasangan nya yg ahli patung kerajaan, malah minta 
putus karena kamasutra mereka mengganggu konsentrasi pada profesinya, persis 
keyakinan lady gaga. Kurang jelas, apa kamasutra ada hubungan dg tantri ato 
nggak? Yang jelas setelah itu si ahli patung kuwalat.
Jadi selalu ada titik berseberangan ttg sex, yang satu bonobo yang lain owa 
-----Original Message-----
From: donnie damana <donnie.dam...@gmail.com>
Sender: wanita-muslimah@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 7 Aug 2010 14:30:35 
To: <wanita-muslimah@yahoogroups.com>
Reply-To: wanita-muslimah@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: Bls: [wanita-muslimah] Re: Mati ketawa ala fatwa

Kayaknya konsepnya mirip seperti tantric sex :
TANTRIC SEX is meditative, spontaneous and intimate lovemaking Through it you 
learn to prolong the act of making love and to channel, rather than dissipate. 
potent orgasmic energies moving through you, thereby raising the level of your 
consciousness. Tantra transports your sexuality from the plane of doing to the 
place of being. There is no goal in Tantric sex, only the present moment of 
perfect and harmonious union. Tantra teaches you to revere your sexual partner 
and to transform the act of sex into a sacrament of love.

Tantra teaches that lovemaking between a man and woman, when entered into with 
awareness, is a gateway to both sexual and spiritual ecstasy. In India, 
traditional Tantrikas spent many years under the guidance of a spiritual 
teacher and engaged in elaborate yogic rituals to purify and master the body 
and mind. These practices were intended to awaken the powerful psychic energies 
through which the adept could enter into higher states of consciousness When a 
disciple was deemed ready he or she partook in sexual rites with a partner.

Through the sacred act of love, they sought to merge the dual nature of their 
sexuality into an ecstatic union. Through this came the harmonization of their 
own internal masculine and feminine polarities and a realization of the 
blissful nature of the 

Orgasme adalah kondisi trance like state. 
Orang yang melakukan meditasi,  Darwis melakukan whirling dance, tujuannya 
sama: kondisi trance like state. dimana dikatakan bahwa whirling dance 
berpuncak pada : "in a trance like state striving for a "glimpse of the unseen 
world," not dissimilar from the afterlife." (mbah wiki)


On Aug 7, 2010, at 12:34 PM, Abdul Muiz wrote:

> Kang, orgasme sexual merupakan peruwujudan kesadaran sejati, aku gagal 
> menemukan relasi keduanya menurut versi paganism, mohon penjelasan dan 
> pencerahannya kang !
> Wassalam
> Abdul Mu'iz
> --- Pada Sab, 7/8/10, donnie damana <donnie.dam...@gmail.com> menulis:
> Dari: donnie damana <donnie.dam...@gmail.com>
> Judul: Re: Bls: [wanita-muslimah] Re: Mati ketawa ala fatwa
> Kepada: wanita-muslimah@yahoogroups.com
> Tanggal: Sabtu, 7 Agustus, 2010, 3:27 PM
> Kang Muiz..
> Sepertinya agama semit, yang memandang bahwa sexual intercourse adalah hal 
> yang tabu diluar institusi perkawinan.
> Sexual intercourse bagi kaum pagan adalah perayaan penciptaan oleh divine 
> power.
> Referensinya, kalo mau yang renyah ya novelnya Dan Brown: da vinci code.
> Kalo yang lebih serius bisa di googling, mungkin salah satunya adalah links 
> berikut:
> http://www.goddess.org/religious_sex.html
> Kalo di Kang Wiki, tidak banyak disebut secara khusus, tapi di beberapa 
> topik: 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_intercourse, ada satu bagian kecil yang 
> menyebut: 
> Pagans believe that the Charge of the Goddess instructs that "...all acts of 
> love and pleasure are [the Goddess'] rituals and by the Wiccan Rede: "An it 
> harm none, do as thou wilt", which is interpreted by many as allowing and 
> endorsing responsible sexual relationships of all varieties.[78]
> [78]^ Hans Holzer. The Truth about Witchcraft (1971) Doubleday. page 128. 
> ISBN 0090048601
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lust:
> Few ancient, pagan religions have actually considered lust to be a vice. The 
> most famous example of a widespread religious movement practicing lust as a 
> ritual would be theBacchanalias of the Ancient Roman Bacchantes. However, 
> this activity was soon outlawed by the Roman Senate in 186 BC in the decree 
> Senatus consultum de Bacchanalibus. The practice of sacred prostitution, 
> however, continued to be an activity practiced often by the Dionysians.
> atau ini: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wiccan_ritual%27s:
> A sensationalised aspect of Wicca, particularly in Gardnerian and Alexandrian 
> Wicca, is the traditional practice of working in the nude, also known as 
> skyclad. This practice seemingly derives from a line in Aradia, Charles 
> Leland's supposed record of Italian witchcraft.[58] Other traditions wear 
> robes with cords tied around the waist or even normal street clothes. In 
> certain traditions, ritualised sex magic is performed in the form of the 
> Great Rite, whereby a High Priest and High Priestess invoke the God and 
> Goddess to possess them before performing sexual intercourse to raise magical 
> energy for use in spellwork. In some cases it is instead performed "in 
> token", thereby merely symbolically, using the athame to symbolise the penis 
> and the chalice to symbolise the vagina.[59]
> Symbolic version of the Great Rite
> In the symbolic version the High Priest plunges the athame, or ritual knife 
> (the male symbol), into a cup or chalice (the female symbol) which is filled 
> with wine and is held by theHigh Priestess. The Great Rite symbolizes 
> creation in the union of the Maiden Goddess with the Lover God, and thus is 
> also known as a fertility rite.
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