We have about the same situation in our office.  We were able to issue a
CTRL-N on the new browser, which copies the security info and opens another
browser.  When the new browser came up, we had the title bar and could use
the IE developer toolbar on it.
Maybe you have the same kind of window.

Alan

On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 9:57 PM, Bret Pettichord <b...@pettichord.com>wrote:

>
> These are good suggestions. Years ago i had this same problem, and i was
> able to find a OLE method on the browser object that let me turn on the
> toolbars. Knowing, this i was able to use irb to turn it on.
>
> Bret
>
> Jason Trebilcock wrote:
> >
> > It seems like a simple solution would be to press Ctrl-N from within
> > the ‘small browser’ to open a full browser.
> >
> > (Idea from:
> >
> http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/forums/en-US/iewebdevelopment/thread/fdc9c290-7fce-413c-bdec-d1985b6b4290/
> > comment by Rob Adams on 1/17/2008 – gotta give credit where credit is
> > due.)
> >
> > (I had two other options – copying and pasting the URL into a new
> > window…or using Firefox/Firebug…but the above seems to be the easiest.)
> >
> > *From:* watir-general@googlegroups.com
> > [mailto:watir-gene...@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *H Kogi
> > *Sent:* Friday, October 16, 2009 2:44 PM
> > *To:* watir-general@googlegroups.com
> > *Subject:* [wtr-general] Identifying objects when browser window has
> > no toolbar
> >
> > I am hoping someone can point me to the right direction since I was
> > not able to find answers anywhere. My application opens a small
> > browser (almost like a popup) that has no toolbar (screenshot
> > attached). With no toolbar, I cannot use IE develper toolbar (if I
> > can, please let me know.). And the page is javascript. All I can find
> > is via irb using ie.show_all_objects that I provided below. This does
> > not provide me enough information such as items in the pulldown list,
> > etc. I have other similar window that has more objects. How can I
> > identify objects?
> >
> > -----------Objects in page -------------
> > text/css id=
> > text/javascript id= src=/sales/javascript/ext/adapter/jquery.js
> > text/javascript id= src=/sales/javascript/ext/adapter/ext-jquery-adapter
> > .js
> > text/javascript id= src=/sales/javascript/ext/ext-base.js
> > text/javascript id= src=/sales/javascript/ext/ext-all-debug.js
> > text/javascript id= src=/sales/javascript/app/com/xxx/storefront/dsa/nam
> > espace.js
> > text/javascript id= src=/sales/javascript/app/com/xxx/storefront/dsa/app
> > /App.js
> > text/javascript id= src=/sales/javascript/app/com/xxx/storefront/dsa/app
> > /Framework.js
> > text/javascript id= src=/sales/javascript/app/com/xxx/storefront/dsa/ui/
> > DSAApplication.js
> > text/javascript id= src=/sales/javascript/app/com/xxx/storefront/dsa/ui/
> > DSAAddProductContainer.js
> > text/javascript id= src=/sales/javascript/app/com/xxx/storefront/dsa/uti
> > l/DSAProductReader.js
> > text/javascript id= src=/sales/javascript/app/com/xxx/storefront/dsa/mod
> > el/DSAProductHelper.js
> > text/javascript id= src=/sales/javascript/app/com/xxx/storefront/dsa/mod
> > el/DSAProductList.js
> > text/javascript id= src=/sales/javascript/app/com/xxx/storefront/dsa/ui/
> > DSAProductConfigContainer.js
> > text/javascript id= src=/sales/javascript/app/com/xxx/storefront/dsa/ui/
> > DSAProductConfigPanel.js
> > text/javascript id= src=/sales/javascript/app/com/xxx/storefront/dsa/ui/
> > DSADomainConfig.js
> > text/javascript id= src=/sales/javascript/app/com/xxx/storefront/dsa/ui/
> > DSASEOConfig.js
> > text/javascript id= src=/sales/javascript/app/com/xxx/storefront/dsa/ui/
> > DSASEONATConfig.js
> > text/javascript id= src=/sales/javascript/app/com/xxx/storefront/dsa/ui/
> > DSATOP10Config.js
> > text/javascript id= src=/sales/javascript/app/com/xxx/storefront/dsa/ui/
> > DSAPopPPCConfig.js
> > text/javascript id= src=/sales/javascript/app/com/xxx/storefront/dsa/ui/
> > DSAPPCAdAgentConfig.js
> > text/javascript id= src=/sales/javascript/app/com/xxx/storefront/dsa/ui/
> > DSADIFMCustomConfig.js
> > text/javascript id= src=/sales/javascript/app/com/xxx/storefront/dsa/ui/
> > DSADIFMPremiumConfig.js
> > text/javascript id= src=/sales/javascript/app/com/xxx/storefront/dsa/ui/
> > DSAOLMBundleConfig.js
> > text/javascript id= src=/sales/javascript/app/com/xxx/storefront/dsa/ui/
> > DSAProductListForm.js
> > text/javascript id= src=/sales/javascript/app/com/xxx/storefront/dsa/uti
> > l/DSAUIUtil.js
> > text/javascript id= src=/sales/javascript/app/com/xxx/storefront/dsa/ser
> > vice/DSAServiceChannel.js
> > text/javascript id= src=/sales/javascript/app/com/xxx/storefront/dsa/ui/
> > DSAShoppingCartPanel.js
> > text/javascript id= src=/sales/javascript/app/com/xxx/storefront/dsa/ui/
> > DSAOrderPaymentContainer.js
> > text/javascript id= src=/sales/javascript/app/com/xxx/storefront/dsa/ui/
> > DSAOrderReviewPanel.js
> > text/javascript id= src=/sales/javascript/app/com/xxx/storefront/dsa/ui/
> > DSAPaymentInfoPanel.js
> > text/javascript id= src=/sales/javascript/app/com/xxx/storefront/dsa/ui/
> > DSACreditCardPanel.js
> > text/javascript id= src=/sales/javascript/app/com/xxx/storefront/dsa/uti
> > l/DSAShoppingCartReader.js
> > text/javascript id= src=/sales/javascript/app/com/xxx/storefront/dsa/ui/
> > DSAPressReleaseConfig.js
> > text/javascript id= src=/sales/javascript/app/com/xxx/storefront/dsa/ui/
> > DSASLVConfig.js
> > text/javascript id= src=/sales/javascript/app/com/xxx/storefront/dsa/ui/
> > DSAAddOnProductConfig.js
> > text/javascript id= src=/sales/javascript/app/com/xxx/storefront/dsa/ui/
> > DSAAddOnMinutesConfig.js
> > text/javascript id= src=/sales/javascript/app/com/xxx/storefront/dsa/ui/
> > DSAAddOnMultipleQuantityConfig.js
> > text/javascript id= src=/sales/javascript/app/com/xxx/storefront/dsa/ui/
> > DSAEcommDesignConfig.js
> > text/javascript id= src=/sales/javascript/app/com/xxx/storefront/dsa/ui/
> > DSASEVConfig.js
> > text/javascript id= src=/sales/javascript/app/com/xxx/storefront/dsa/ui/
> > DSAOrderConfirmationContainer.js
> > text/javascript id= src=/sales/javascript/app/com/xxx/storefront/dsa/ui/
> > DSAOLMConfig.js
> > text/javascript id= src=/sales/javascript/app/com/xxx/storefront/dsa/ui/
> > DSADIFMStandardConfig.js
> > text/javascript id= src=/sales/javascript/app/com/xxx/storefront/dsa/ui/
> > DSAEVContactPanel.js
> > text/javascript id= src=/sales/javascript/app/com/xxx/storefront/dsa/ui/
> > DSAAttrAddOnMinuteConfig.js
> > text/javascript id= src=/sales/javascript/app/com/xxx/storefront/dsa/ui/
> > DSAAttrAddOnPageConfig.js
> > text/javascript id= src=/sales/javascript/app/com/xxx/storefront/dsa/ui/
> > DSADIFMRedesignConfig.js
> > text/javascript id= src=/sales/javascript/app/com/xxx/storefront/dsa/ui/
> > DSAAddOnMaintConfig.js
> > text/javascript id= src=/sales/javascript/app/com/xxx/storefront/dsa/ui/
> > DSAAttrAddOnKeywordConfig.js
> > text/javascript id= src=/sales/javascript/app/com/xxx/storefront/dsa/ui/
> > DSAServiceAgreementPanel.js
> > text/javascript id= src=
> > text name=prod id=product-list value=Select a product alt=
> > src=
> > button name= id=ext-gen219 value=Add
> > name= id=
> > name= id=
> > name= id=
> > name= id=ext-gen176
> > checkbox name=manualProcessing id=manual-processing value=on alt=
> > src=
> > text name=couponField id=coupon-field value= alt=
> > src=
> > button name= id=ext-gen101 value=Redeem
> > name= id=
> > name= id=
> > name= id=
> > name= id=
> > name= id=
> > name= id=
> > name= id=
> > name= id=
> > name= id=
> > name= id=ext-gen124
> > button name= id=ext-gen48 value=Back
> > button name= id=ext-gen57 value=Next
> > => nil
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Hiroko
> >
> >
> >
> > >
>
>
> --
> Bret Pettichord
> Lead Developer, Watir, www.watir.com
> Blog, www.io.com/~wazmo/blog
> Twitter, www.twitter.com/bpettichord
>
>
> >
>

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