Did you try my provided solution instead? How did it work (or not work) for you?
Jarmo Pertman ----- IT does really matter - http://itreallymatters.net On Oct 18, 2:39 am, bis <[email protected]> wrote: > its still there just a bit odd, > > watir clicks on the drop down ( the one with handmade, vintage, and > supplies) but it does not open it one and select one of the items. if > you look in my original example at the beginning of this thread it > does click open and select another item with watir-webdriver. > > On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 3:23 PM, Chuck van der Linden <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > WOOT, hey Oscar that's great news! (and confirms that the folks at > > Etsy are cool folks. I'd be sure to send them a note when it's > > finished and encourage them to share it with their own QA folks (who > > knows, could be more watir converts to be had there ;-) ) > > > OK, so after that little tee-crossing side track, where do we stand > > with your original problem? > > > On Oct 17, 10:37 am, bis <[email protected]> wrote: > >> The email and response I got back from Etsy about using their site for > >> Watir examples > > >> ===================================== > >> Etsy Developer Support [email protected] to me show > >> details 10:30 AM (4 minutes ago) > > >> Hi Oscar, > > >> Thanks for writing! Although our TOU do specify that you can't access > >> the site by automated means, I don't think that your automated testing > >> demo is something we'd be concerned about at this time. > > >> Thanks! > >> Justin > >> Etsy Developer Supporthttp://www.etsy.com/developers > >> ____ > > >> This message is a private conversation between you and Etsy. Please > >> respect this confidentiality and refrain from distributing this > >> communication without permission from Etsy. If you feel this message > >> was sent to you in error, please delete it and let us know. Thank you. > > >> On Mon, Oct 2011 at 12:50 PM, [email protected] wrote: > > >> Hello, My name is Oscar. I am a software tester In my spare time I > >> have written up a tutorial that uses your website to show how to use > >> automated testing tools. It was brought to my attention that it may > >> violate your terms of service for use of API's if it does I will > >> gladly take it down. The tutorial is to help show how open source > >> tools can be used for automated testing of websites. the code > >> repository for this tutorial is > >> herehttps://github.com/hammernight/etsy_cucumber_taza_tutorial/Thanks > >> Oscar > > >> ================================================ > > >> On Oct 10, 2011 6:06 PM, "Cliff Cyphers" <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> > Chuck > > >> > Good point, more people need to respect said terms of use. Although > >> > one's intentions isn't to inter-fear, perform harm, or use their data > >> > for other purposes, it doesn't speak good for the OOS community to not > >> > abide. > > >> > For demo purposes, why not just create a simple site as a rack app or > >> > with camping, sinatra, etc. Also, if there are specific test element > >> > that would be good to cover for demo purposes I'll put them in the > >> > demo site of QA Robusta. So far the demo site supports a JS/CSS drop > >> > down menu, tabed pages and an accordion style registration. > > >> > On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 5:59 PM, Chuck van der Linden <[email protected]> > >> > wrote: > >> > > Sorry for the initial hardline response.. I think I've run into one to > >> > > many 'content rippers' lately who are asking questions about how they > >> > > can use watir to access sites with the pretty clear intent of content > >> > > theft and I had a bit of a knee-jerk response. > > >> > > I think the tutorial stuff that Bis and Alister are doing is valuable > >> > > stuff and for a noble purpose that would all in all benefit the watir > >> > > community. However I think it would be a good idea to get official > >> > > permission since while it might be in the spirit of what Etsy is all > >> > > about, it is (at least by my reading) against their terms of use, and > >> > > their api terms of use. Specifically I think this work would violate > >> > > these portions of their agreements: > > >> > > 1) From their main terms of use: > >> > > You agree that you will not use any robot, > >> > > spider, scraper or other automated means to access Etsy for any > >> > > purpose whatsoever, except to the extent expressly permitted by and in > >> > > compliance with Etsy's API Terms of Use or otherwise without Etsy's > >> > > prior express written permission. > > >> > > any Watir scripts would qualify under 'other automated means' > > >> > > 2) When we get into their API terms (http://www.etsy.com/developers/ > >> > > terms-of-use) it gets thornier because those terms basically restrict > >> > > developers to using the API, and Watir isn't doing that. > > >> > > 9. Website Human Use Restriction And Use of API > >> > > The API is the only supported method for users to access data > >> > > programmatically from Etsy. The Etsy Website, including Content and > >> > > applications is published solely for direct access by human users. > >> > > 'Spiders', 'crawlers', 'bots' and all other automated software or > >> > > hardware devices designed to access and 'read' or otherwise analyze > >> > > the Website independently are prohibited unless they are expressly so > >> > > authorized by Etsy. > > >> > > Again Watir would fall into the general wording of 'all other > >> > > automated software ... designed to access..' > > >> > > Not sure who you wrote to, but the proper address for anything > >> > > pertaining to this appears to be "[email protected]" > > >> > > I hope they will say yes, their site makes an interesting target and > >> > > anyone using it to practice their automation skills is going to get > >> > > exposed to some interesting stuff for sale and might even buy > >> > > something. > > >> > > If they say no then an alternative will need to be found. Or we might > >> > > even have to create out own (which might be an interesting project).. > >> > > I know Bret had something he was using for training when he was trying > >> > > to make a go of 'watircraft' so if this is a non starter that might be > >> > > one place to start. (I'd love to eventually have our own training > >> > > site, perhaps even persuade some of the third party tools venders to > >> > > allow us to put samples of their stuff up on it so we could end up > >> > > creating demonstrations of how to code against all these various wacky > >> > > javascript controls for things like treeviews, multi-select lists, > >> > > etc. > > >> > > On Oct 10, 10:57 am, Jari Bakken <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >> You may be interested in Alister's Etsy code > >> > >> athttps://github.com/alisterscott/EtsyWatirWebDriver/ > > >> > >> On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 6:56 PM, bis <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >> > No I do not work for Etsy in any way, Also the automated tests > >> > >> > using watir, > >> > >> > taza, rspec, and cucumber do not violate the terms of use for the > >> > >> > site or > >> > >> > api as far as i understand them. > > >> > >> > But in your concern I have fired off a letter to Etsy about this > >> > >> > and the > >> > >> > ToS. Also if this is in fact the case then I will also send an > >> > >> > email to > >> > >> > everyone else that has written a tutorial or testing examples using > >> > >> > the Etsy > >> > >> > site as well > > >> > >> > this is my blog post about the tests I wrote against etsy > >> > >> >http://thechort.com/blog/?p=105 > >> > >> > and the code > >> > >> >https://github.com/hammernight/etsy_cucumber_taza_tutorial/ > > >> > >> > On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 1:10 PM, Chuck van der Linden > >> > >> > <[email protected]>wrote: > > >> > >> >> Before we go any further assisting you with this, can you offer > >> > >> >> some > >> > >> >> assurance that you are either working for Etsy or have specific > >> > >> >> written permission to interface with their site in this way? > > >> > >> >> Otherwise what you are doing violates their terms of service (see > >> > >> >> below) and while I cannot speak for others, I for one refuse to be > >> > >> >> a > >> > >> >> party to any such activity. > > >> > >> >> From Etsy's terms of service: > > >> > >> >> "11. Access and Interference > > >> > >> >> Etsy may contain robot exclusion headers which contain internal > >> > >> >> rules > >> > >> >> for software usage. Much of the information on Etsy is updated on a > >> > >> >> real-time basis and is proprietary or is licensed to Etsy by Etsy's > >> > >> >> users or third-parties. You agree that you will not use any robot, > >> > >> >> spider, scraper or other automated means to access Etsy for any > >> > >> >> purpose whatsoever, except to the extent expressly permitted by > >> > >> >> and in > >> > >> >> compliance with Etsy's API Terms of Use or otherwise without Etsy's > >> > >> >> prior express written permission. Additionally, you agree that you > >> > >> >> will not: > > >> > >> >> Take any action that imposes, or may impose, in Etsy's sole > >> > >> >> discretion, an unreasonable or disproportionately large load on > >> > >> >> Etsy's > >> > >> >> infrastructure > >> > >> >> Copy, reproduce, modify, create derivative works from, > >> > >> >> distribute > >> > >> >> or publicly display any user Content (except for your Content) or > >> > >> >> other allowed uses as set out in The DOs & DON'Ts of Etsy from the > >> > >> >> Site except to the extent expressly permitted by and in compliance > >> > >> >> with Etsy's API Terms of Use or otherwise without the prior express > >> > >> >> written permission of Etsy and the appropriate third party, as > >> > >> >> applicable > >> > >> >> Interfere or attempt to interfere with the proper working of the > >> > >> >> Site or any activities conducted on the Site > >> > >> >> Bypass Etsy's robot exclusion headers or other measures Etsy may > >> > >> >> use to prevent or restrict access to Etsy > >> > >> >> " > > >> > >> >> On Oct 3, 10:27 am, bis <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >> >> > Ok, So I came across a strange issue clicking on this drop down > >> > >> >> > in > >> > >> >> watir. > >> > >> >> > but I don't get the same thing using watir-webdriver. > > >> > >> >> > I can click the button and it should open the drop down(list) > >> > >> >> > and I > >> > >> >> should > >> > >> >> > be able to click on one of the items in that list. but when > >> > >> >> > watir fires > >> > >> >> the > >> > >> >> > click i see it clicking but it does not open the drop down(list) > > ... > > read more » -- Before posting, please read http://watir.com/support. In short: search before you ask, be nice. [email protected] http://groups.google.com/group/watir-general [email protected]
