I would like to say , this is such a perfect clarity! Yes this is the way 
wait has to work. 

On Thursday, September 13, 2018 at 8:57:57 PM UTC+5:30, Titus Fortner wrote:
>
> Ok, yes. This is a slight simplification, but think of Watir waiting for 
> what makes the most sense for the provided method.
>
> 1. Status Queries --> No automatic waits; immediate response or exception
> #exists? / #visible? / #present? / #enabled? 
>
> 2. Information Queries --> Automatically waits until exists in DOM
> #text / #value / #tag_name / #style / #attribute_value etc
>
> 3. Actions --> Automatically waits until displayed to user
> #click / #submit / #set / #clear / #select
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, September 12, 2018 at 10:46:27 PM UTC-7, NaviHan wrote:
>>
>> Hi Titus
>>
>> Thats makes it very clear now :-)
>>
>> Just to confirm, action methods as in set, click, select
>> And the reading attribute values like id, text, or any other custom 
>> attribute are not auto covered and we need to use wait_until(&:present?)
>>
>> Is that correct?
>>
>> Cheers
>> Navi
>>
>> On Tuesday, 11 September 2018 14:52:33 UTC+10, NaviHan wrote:
>>>
>>> This is something that keeps me a bit sceptic when I write and read the 
>>> automation code in my project.
>>> This used PageObjects.
>>>
>>> I have seen extensive use of element referces, for example 
>>>
>>> button(:add_to_bag, :css => '#add-to-cart')
>>> add_to_bag.element.when_present.click
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> instead of 
>>>
>>> add_to_bag 
>>>
>>> which directly clicks the element
>>>
>>> I have also seen extensive use of referencing elements using 
>>> <element>.when_present, <element>.wait_until_present etc
>>>
>>> Im confused where we should draw the line when deciding to reference the 
>>> element and actually using it(as in directly calling "add_o_bag" in the 
>>> above example to click the element.
>>>
>>> Any thoughts?
>>>
>>>
>>>

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