Thanks very much, Ali, this is very interesting information. It would seem
to be very important for being able to communicate clearly to people about
Apache Wave's management that it is completely free of all potential
encumbrances from Google. Otherwise, that may set up a negative psychology
in potential development and commercial interests. Similarly, even if ASF
does not intend to use it, it might be best to transfer control of
wave.orgto ASF from Google, just so there's absolutely no doubt in
people's minds
who has control of the brand's future.

Best,

John

On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 3:26 PM, Ali Lown <[email protected]> wrote:

> > Ali, I am noting that the logo attribution calls for citing a Google
> > copyright. Is that still valid?
>
> This is something I am unsure of. It was last asked in the list back
> in August 2011, for which the response from Google was (to the more
> general question of "I mean that Google cleared it out that it donates
> the WIAB code along with the Wiki and logo to Apache?"):
> "Yes, this is covered.
> On 22 December 2010 I ([email protected]) submitted the appropriate
> materials for the grant from Google to Apache ([email protected]). Less
> than 2 hours later, Craig L Russel ([email protected]) acknowledged
> receipt."
>
> > How does Apache then relate to intellectual
> > property ownership for Wave assets at this time? I understand the
> structure
> > generally, but especially as assets are still being moved from Google
> > servers to Apache servers, I am not sure exactly where this all stands.
> Who
> > might be the best person to engage on these sorts of questions?
>
> So, my understanding is that all assets have been moved to Apache control.
> Though I do not have access to the documents detailing explicitly
> which this really means.
>
> @Michael: Perhaps you can provide a better answer here on attribution
> for the Open Wave logo?
>
> [On a related note: Is the name "Apache Wave" trademarked? It is not
> in the Apache listing, but that is noted to only be a partial listing]
>
> Ali
>

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