@Evan: Okay great.

I have merged this PR into the incubator-wave-docs repo.

For reference: as the github repo is a mirror, with the master being
on git-wip-us.apache.org, I merged the PR by adding a new remote to my
local repository which was Evan's repository, then merging the
relevant commits locally and pushing it back upstream. Github can
auto-detect this occurred and closed the PR for me.

Does this seem a reasonable workflow?

Ali

On 15 May 2015 at 09:06, Evan Hughes <ehu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> @Ali, submitted today
>
> On 15 May 2015 at 05:12, Ali Lown <a...@lown.me.uk> wrote:
>
>> @Evan: That PR looks fine to me.
>> One thing: Have you submitted an ICLA to Apache? It seems like it
>> would be a good idea to do at some point, as you are likely to
>> continue making not-insignificant changes to this repo.
>>
>> @Yuri/Others: How do we want to handle PR reviews?
>> I propose doing it the same way as on review-board, of leaving
>> comments on the system as appropriate.
>> Do we want to wait for multiple committers to say LGTM?
>>
>> I propose that at the moment, whilst the documentation repo is being
>> built up, that we just commit the PRs after looking over them for
>> sanity, and then lock it down a bit once stabilized to the current
>> code base?
>>
>> To avoid stalling this progress any longer, I will commit Evans PR
>> within the next 24hrs unless someone says otherwise.
>>
>> Ali
>>
>> On 9 May 2015 at 13:55, Evan Hughes <ehu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > For Pull request
>> >
>> > On 9 May 2015 at 17:12, Evan Hughes <ehu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I believe we should split the docs into:
>> >>
>> >> Documentation  =>  Documents how to build the documentation and how to
>> use
>> >> sphinx + ReST  (mostly just an example and to help ease the transition)
>> >> manual              =>  The user manual provided with the client (How to
>> >> make a wave, .....)
>> >> developer          =>  Everything a developer would need, how to start
>> the
>> >> server, how to build, how to contribute
>> >> api                     =>  How to build with the gadgets/robot api
>> >> protocol             =>  All about the protocol specifications
>> >>
>> >> after the "Documentation" is built I will submit a pull request to the
>> >> main so you guys can see if you like it.
>> >>
>> >> On 6 May 2015 at 00:41, Ali Lown <a...@lown.me.uk> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> The repository is at https://github.com/apache/incubator-wave-docs,
>> >>> and is rather empty at the moment.
>> >>> I see no reason we shouldn't accept pull requests to this repo, so I
>> >>> suggest you use that workflow...
>> >>>
>> >>> Sphinx sounds fine. Many people will be familiar with rest (it shares
>> >>> a lot with markdown but is more powerful) thanks to Python docs making
>> >>> use of it.
>> >>>
>> >>> Can we find any other volunteers for moving the docs out of
>> >>> confluence, as there is quite a lot to do....?
>> >>>
>> >>> Ali
>> >>>
>> >>> On 1 May 2015 at 04:03, Evan Hughes <ehu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>> > I think sphinx would be a better option than jekyll for the
>> >>> > documentation,
>> >>> > it does use restructured text instead of markdown but is more
>> >>> > extensible
>> >>> > and can easily produce a pdf format compared to markdown. Gonna spin
>> up
>> >>> > my
>> >>> > own repo and see how it is, been looking at the syntax and it isn't
>> >>> > that
>> >>> > bad.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > On 1 May 2015 at 01:53, Ali Lown <a...@lown.me.uk> wrote:
>> >>> >
>> >>> >> Okay. A new repository has been made:
>> >>> >> https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=incubator-wave-docs.git
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> I have requested github integration for it, so we can use pull
>> >>> >> requests if we would like to...
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Ali
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> On 29 April 2015 at 00:53, Evan Hughes <ehu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>> >> > I like the idea of also moving the website off of the cms but not
>> >>> >> > sure if
>> >>> >> > it should be in same repository. Ill look into jekyll for the
>> >>> >> documentation
>> >>> >> > but theres also other build systems which might be better for us
>> aka
>> >>> >> > html
>> >>> >> > and pdf export.
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > Go ahead with the repository for the documentation and well go
>> from
>> >>> >> there.
>> >>> >> > Well need to transfer any issues in jira or deal with them during
>> >>> >> > the
>> >>> >> > transition
>> >>> >> >  On 29/04/2015 1:20 AM, "Pablo Ojanguren" <pablo...@gmail.com>
>> >>> >> > wrote:
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> >> +1 Moving doc to git would be good, moreover if we update and
>> >>> >> >> improve
>> >>> >> it a
>> >>> >> >> litlle bit along the migration process (at least the
>> organization).
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> 2015-04-28 16:40 GMT+02:00 Ali Lown <a...@lown.me.uk>:
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> > Yuri,
>> >>> >> >> >
>> >>> >> >> > I think the main reason to move is to make it easier for people
>> >>> >> >> > to
>> >>> >> >> > make changes, over the existing confluence system. So I would
>> >>> >> >> > have
>> >>> >> >> > though that improving the documentation is something people
>> would
>> >>> >> >> > be
>> >>> >> >> > more likely to do afterwards.
>> >>> >> >> >
>> >>> >> >> > I agree that opening some tickets where the documentation could
>> >>> >> >> > be
>> >>> >> >> > improved does help highlight the problem, but it doesn't make
>> it
>> >>> >> >> > any
>> >>> >> >> > easier for people to fix.
>> >>> >> >> >
>> >>> >> >> > Ali
>> >>> >> >> >
>> >>> >> >> > P.s. Do you want me to do anything for RC9, or are you happy to
>> >>> >> >> > submit
>> >>> >> >> > one? Are you waiting on me for anything still?
>> >>> >> >> >
>> >>> >> >> > On 28 April 2015 at 15:36, Yuri Z <vega...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>> >> >> > > Maybe it would be better to move in small steps. Like to go
>> >>> >> >> > > over
>> >>> >> >> current
>> >>> >> >> > > documentation and open tickets with requests for improvements
>> >>> >> wherever
>> >>> >> >> > > something is missing or not clear.
>> >>> >> >> > >
>> >>> >> >> > > On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 5:33 PM Ali Lown <a...@lown.me.uk>
>> >>> >> >> > > wrote:
>> >>> >> >> > >
>> >>> >> >> > >> Well, doesn't look like anybody else has much opinion.
>> >>> >> >> > >>
>> >>> >> >> > >> Shall I just raise a ticket for a new repo for this?
>> >>> >> >> > >>
>> >>> >> >> > >> It probably makes sense to put the whole website under it,
>> >>> >> >> > >> rather
>> >>> >> than
>> >>> >> >> > >> using the combination of Apache CMS website + Confluence
>> that
>> >>> >> >> > >> we do
>> >>> >> >> > >> currently. We could just use Jekyll for both website and
>> docs?
>> >>> >> >> > >>
>> >>> >> >> > >> Ali
>> >>> >> >> > >>
>> >>> >> >> > >>
>> >>> >> >> > >> On 25 April 2015 at 02:52, Evan Hughes <ehu...@gmail.com>
>> >>> >> >> > >> wrote:
>> >>> >> >> > >> > indeed and yea without a doubt
>> >>> >> >> > >> >
>> >>> >> >> > >> > On 25 April 2015 at 09:59, Ali Lown <a...@lown.me.uk>
>> wrote:
>> >>> >> >> > >> >
>> >>> >> >> > >> >> Hi Evan,
>> >>> >> >> > >> >>
>> >>> >> >> > >> >> +1
>> >>> >> >> > >> >>
>> >>> >> >> > >> >> After giving this some more thought post the Hangout, I
>> do
>> >>> >> >> > >> >> think
>> >>> >> >> that
>> >>> >> >> > >> >> moving the docs to Git provides us with a measurable
>> >>> >> >> > >> >> improvement
>> >>> >> >> over
>> >>> >> >> > >> >> the current situation - particularly with the ability to
>> >>> >> >> > >> >> keep
>> >>> >> docs
>> >>> >> >> > >> >> synced with the releases via branches, and the reduced
>> >>> >> >> > >> >> barrier
>> >>> >> to
>> >>> >> >> > >> >> entry for changing them.
>> >>> >> >> > >> >>
>> >>> >> >> > >> >> Would you be interested in leading the migration effort?
>> >>> >> >> > >> >>
>> >>> >> >> > >> >> Ali
>> >>> >> >> > >> >>
>> >>> >> >> > >> >> On 24 April 2015 at 05:59, Evan Hughes <ehu...@gmail.com
>> >
>> >>> >> wrote:
>> >>> >> >> > >> >> > woops, my bad
>> >>> >> >> > >> >> >
>> >>> >> >> > >> >> >
>> >>> >> >> > >> >> > This is a proposal for the storage of documentation to
>> be
>> >>> >> moved
>> >>> >> >> to
>> >>> >> >> > a
>> >>> >> >> > >> git
>> >>> >> >> > >> >> > repository instead of on confluence and leave
>> confluence
>> >>> >> >> > >> >> > as a
>> >>> >> >> place
>> >>> >> >> > >> for
>> >>> >> >> > >> >> > other technical documents used by developers.
>> >>> >> >> > >> >> >
>> >>> >> >> > >> >> > *Confluence:*
>> >>> >> >> > >> >> >     *The issues:*
>> >>> >> >> > >> >> >         - contributors must ask for permission from the
>> >>> >> mailing
>> >>> >> >> > list
>> >>> >> >> > >> to
>> >>> >> >> > >> >> be
>> >>> >> >> > >> >> > given the privilege settings to edit/create pages
>> >>> >> >> > >> >> >         - Simple revision history is kept but is more
>> >>> >> difficult
>> >>> >> >> to
>> >>> >> >> > >> easy
>> >>> >> >> > >> >> > transition documentation between wave release versions,
>> >>> >> >> > >> >> > more
>> >>> >> of a
>> >>> >> >> > >> running
>> >>> >> >> > >> >> > active document
>> >>> >> >> > >> >> >     *The good:*
>> >>> >> >> > >> >> > *        - *easily able to export to pdf and web
>> formats
>> >>> >> >> > >> >> >         - has an easy online rich editor
>> >>> >> >> > >> >> >
>> >>> >> >> > >> >> > *Git (markdown):*
>> >>> >> >> > >> >> > *    The issues:*
>> >>> >> >> > >> >> > *        - *setup as a new repository? a folder in
>> >>> >> >> > >> >> > current
>> >>> >> >> > repository?
>> >>> >> >> > >> >> > apache will need to be involved if a new repository is
>> to
>> >>> >> >> > >> >> > be
>> >>> >> >> setup
>> >>> >> >> > >> >> >         - exporting the markdown files into a
>> meaningful
>> >>> >> >> > >> representation
>> >>> >> >> > >> >> > (web, pdf), many build systems exist but custom system
>> >>> >> >> > >> >> > can
>> >>> >> also
>> >>> >> >> be
>> >>> >> >> > >> >> written
>> >>> >> >> > >> >> > by our committers
>> >>> >> >> > >> >> > *    The good:*
>> >>> >> >> > >> >> > *        - *less of a roadblock, allows users to
>> >>> >> >> > >> >> > contribute
>> >>> >> more,
>> >>> >> >> > also
>> >>> >> >> > >> >> > allows new committers a trial at how to add commits
>> using
>> >>> >> >> > >> >> > the
>> >>> >> >> > apache
>> >>> >> >> > >> >> > procedures
>> >>> >> >> > >> >> >         - Highly customisable
>> >>> >> >> > >> >> >         - Revision history and versions easily achieved
>> >>> >> >> > >> >> > for
>> >>> >> >> example
>> >>> >> >> > >> with
>> >>> >> >> > >> >> > branches (master, 0.4.x, 0.5.x, ....)
>> >>> >> >> > >> >> >
>> >>> >> >> > >> >> > *TL;DR*
>> >>> >> >> > >> >> >
>> >>> >> >> > >> >> > Confluence is a rich wiki but can limit the
>> availability
>> >>> >> >> > >> >> > for
>> >>> >> >> > >> committers
>> >>> >> >> > >> >> to
>> >>> >> >> > >> >> > publish updates (need to ask permission, which isn't
>> that
>> >>> >> hard)
>> >>> >> >> and
>> >>> >> >> > >> is a
>> >>> >> >> > >> >> > good place to store technical information for the
>> >>> >> >> > >> >> > project.
>> >>> >> >> > >> >> > A markdown written file structured documentation
>> >>> >> implementation
>> >>> >> >> is
>> >>> >> >> > >> more
>> >>> >> >> > >> >> > accessible to developers, follows a more natural flow
>> and
>> >>> >> >> > >> >> > can
>> >>> >> be
>> >>> >> >> > >> highly
>> >>> >> >> > >> >> > customised and has great revision structure.
>> >>> >> >> > >> >> >
>> >>> >> >> > >> >> > *Relevant Jira Issues:*
>> >>> >> >> > >> >> > *    - none*
>> >>> >> >> > >> >> >
>> >>> >> >> > >> >> > *Please express your opinions below and if enough
>> >>> >> >> > >> >> > feedback is
>> >>> >> >> > present
>> >>> >> >> > >> a
>> >>> >> >> > >> >> > vote from the mailing list should be called after the
>> >>> >> >> discussion. *
>> >>> >> >> > >> >> >
>> >>> >> >> > >> >> >
>> >>> >> >> > >> >> > On 24 April 2015 at 14:28, Evan Hughes <
>> ehu...@gmail.com>
>> >>> >> wrote:
>> >>> >> >> > >> >> >
>> >>> >> >> > >> >> >> This is a proposal for ....
>> >>> >> >> > >> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> > >> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> > >> >> >> TL;DR
>> >>> >> >> > >> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> > >> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> > >> >>
>> >>> >> >> > >>
>> >>> >> >> >
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
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