I'd like to see the semantics for participant removal more explicitly
documented. In places it's implied that the user looses all access to a
wavelet once removed from the participant list, where as in other places
it's implied that the user retains access to the wavelet history up to the
delta where the participant is removed. It seems pointless to remove all
access to the wavelet since the user has already seen (and may have cached)
the previous contents. So it seems more reasonable that the participant
retains access to all deltas up to and including the delta where the
participant is removed. If the participant is removed, added then removed
again. the participant should retain access to all deltas up to and
including the last delta in which the participant is removed.

Having implemented my own client side OT I can say that the logic will more
complicated if the delta associated with a client submit is completely
omitted. it's easier to match against a version than it is to identify the
gap between deltas. Perhaps we could make the delta in WaveletUpdate
optional and omit it for deltas that correspond to the clients submit.
However, omitting the delta is only valid if the delta stream and submit can
be associated with the same client instance by the server. This is simple in
the case where the client connects to the server with a single WebSocket,
but is more difficult if the client sends the submit via a separate
communication channel from the delta stream.

If the channelId found in SubmitDeltaRequest is intended as a means to
associate a submit with a delta stream then it should be made optional or
the description needs to be modified so that it states that the delta
channel must be opened before a submit can be made.

If we add an optional endVersion to the OpenWaveletChannelRequest, then it
can serve as an open-ended subscription or as a closed-ended history
request.

What would the server return in the version zero snapshot? It's a little
hard to tell from the description whether or not the server would be
creating the root conversation or if it would only be including metadata.
I'm assuming that the only reason you have the wavelet creation service
seperated from the delta submit service is so that the server can include
initial metadata in the wave/wavelet. If so, what metadata would the server
be including?

-Tad

On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 4:23 PM, Alex North <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> The Google Wave client/server protocol is rather complex and we had trouble
> documenting it well. It was never fully implemented in FedOne (now WIAB).
> We've recently developed a design for a new, simpler protocol which I'd like
> to share with you here.
>
>
> https://sites.google.com/a/waveprotocol.org/wave-protocol/protocol/design-proposals/clientserver-protocol
>
> Questions and feedback are most welcome. In particular please let me know
> if the documentation is unclear. I intend to implement this protocol in Wave
> in a Box over the coming week or so.
>
> Cheers,
> Alex
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