Todd Showalter <todd@...> writes: > The core of my argument here is that there should be a standard > gamepad coming through the event system, much like the standard mouse > does. The standard gamepad would be: <snip>
For reference, in the Windows XP days joystick input was done with DirectInput, which was designed to be as flexible as possible, work with any input device, and even went as far as to let you query human-readable names for devices and buttons. Now they've deprecated DirectInput for the much simpler XInput, which lays out the controller like so: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-ca/library/windows/desktop/microsoft.directx_sdk.reference.xinput_gamepad%28v=vs.85%29.aspx That's a nice set of buttons/axes to use as a standard abstraction, although it would be nice if they had built that on top of DirectInput's flexibility. Having a sane default configuration is great, but in XInput it comes at the cost of not allowing players to customize their controls to support more exotic hardware. It would be amazing if Wayland/evdev was designed around this middle-ground. One thing I would expect a joystick abstraction to do that I don't expect a mouse abstraction to do is, if I plug two mice into a system I expect them both to control the same cursor, but with joysticks I always want to know which joystick is sending each message. (By the way, I like Todd's north/east/south/west abstraction for the face buttons. It's probably also safe to abstract start/back into startnext/backselect. XInput notably does not allow access to the home button, and even on Linux it would probably be bad form for games to use the home button, but a low-level protocol would need to define it so it could be used for things like Steam's Big Picture or media centre compositors.) _______________________________________________ wayland-devel mailing list wayland-devel@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/wayland-devel
