On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 3:33 PM, Fabrice Rey <[email protected]> wrote: >> "The question is: what action triggers it to make this ring of icons >> appear?" > A global shortkey (and yes I know it's not yet possible on Wayland, that's > another problem on its own). > >> "What's the application doing? Does it have keyboard focus but is >> potentially not under the mouse pointer? Do you have a screenshot or video >> of this feature you can share?" > I'm not the developper of it, I actually don't even use it ^^ I was just > thinking of it to see how it would fit in Wayland, what's potentially > missing now in the protocol. > Here is an article about it: > http://www.webupd8.org/2011/10/gnome-pie-02-released.html and a video: > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFQDyZyMxO4. > Basically, it appears under the mouse when you trigger the shortkey, and you > can also use the keyboard to navigate in the items. > So I see 2 main points here: > - it places its window not relatively to a parent (which there is not), but > to the mouse > - it takes the (keyboard) focus when it appears > The second point is not related to this topic, so we can probably think of > it later. > > >
This reminds me of a something similar[1] that comes with the Wacom drivers on Windows and Mac. Its not a normal application that you would open, interact with, (possibly switch away from temporarily), and close. Rather, the application sits in the background and waits for some button/mouse/hotkey to be pressed before spawning a window under the mouse that you interact with for only a moment before returning to your original task. I do not mean to put words into Pekka's mouth, but I believe what he means when saying that things like this are "a DE-component" he's speaking conceptually more than anything else. Alternative menu systems like this and desklets essentially exist to augment the desktop itself. Just because they can be written in a DE-agnostic manner and run on GNOME, KDE, or TWM (all hail xeyes?) doesn't change that. They have fundamentally different needs than the average application, and -- at least as far as I understand Wayland -- it makes sense to leave some of these things up to the desktops to define. [1]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McJMnMJydes Jason --- Now instead of four in the eights place / you’ve got three, ‘Cause you added one / (That is to say, eight) to the two, / But you can’t take seven from three, / So you look at the sixty-fours.... > 2014-07-02 21:26 GMT+02:00 Bill Spitzak <[email protected]>: > >> >> >> On 07/02/2014 11:39 AM, Fabrice Rey wrote: >>> >>> > "I am not sure if wayland should allow this, and whether there are >>> clients that expect this to work" >>> Well, there is at least one application that exists and displays a ring >>> of icons under the mouse. So, it needs to tell the compositor to place >>> its window to (dx;dy) relatively to the mouse. >> >> >> The question is: what action triggers it to make this ring of icons >> appear? >> >> _______________________________________________ >> wayland-devel mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/wayland-devel > > > > _______________________________________________ > wayland-devel mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/wayland-devel > _______________________________________________ wayland-devel mailing list [email protected] http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/wayland-devel
