Hi All, Just like last year there was a pre-fosdem cross desktop wayland meetup on the Friday before fosdem.
Unfortunately this year we did not get as diverse a group as last time. Here are some short notes in case anyone is interested what was discussed. Present were: Derek Foreman (Samsung, EFL/Enlightenment) Mike Blumenkrantz (Samsung, EFL/Enlightenment) Andrew Williams (EFL/Enlightenment) Olivier Fourdan (Red Hat, graphics team) Benjamin Tissoires (Red Hat, graphics team) Hans de Goede (Red Hat, graphics team) Discussed: -Menu position stuff, basically: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=756579 Looks good from both EFL and Jonas Adahl's pov -Menu position will use a new xdg_popup type: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/wayland-devel/2016-January/026494.html -This patch-set also introduces a xdg_tooltip type: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/wayland-devel/2016-January/026496.html We discussed that this is a bad name, and it would probably be better to have xdg_popup be more generic and/or have a special version which does not need a grab, does have the xdg_popup positioning stuff, but is not called tooltip as that is too specific -Tiling window managers: -Need a way to tell windows to not generate drop-shadows -Would also be useful for maximized windows -DrawModeEnum which communicates to clients how to draw their client side window decorations, e.g. "CSD with no dropshadow": https://gist.github.com/zmike/0a5f3a3da7b86da9893c -Maybe add a value to the enum to allow a "No CSD" drawmode (like X11) which will likely be useful for the KDE people who would like to be able to run without CSD. -Took a look at last years list of dicussed items: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xdg/2015-July/013527.html -Discussed global-keybindings again. Enlightenment does have feature requests for this, so just saying we don't do that may not cut it -Took a look at: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Wayland_features -Started discussing what we need for startup notication -Discussed notifications of progress (think download-manager), maybe extend: https://people.gnome.org/~mccann/docs/notification-spec/notification-spec-latest.html With progress fields so that a persistent notification with a progress bar can be shown while a download is in progress (such as is done in android when downloading a large app from the appstore) -How to help people understand / debug wayland problems: -Quickly turned into discussion how to get people to file good Wayland bugs / to provide the right info to help developers debug their problems -No clue -Discussed startup-notification, should pretty much be a copy and paste of X spec to wayland using propertoes on xdg_shell toplevel surface to communicate the launcher clicked time for focus stealing prevention, etc. Discussed this at Fosdem with Carlos Garnacho, he is interested in looking into this / implementing this. Regards, Hans _______________________________________________ wayland-devel mailing list wayland-devel@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/wayland-devel
