Hi, On Thu, Aug 4, 2022 at 12:58 PM samuel ammonius <sfammon...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Dude, I'm trying to persuade the wayland devs to change this, not have an > argument about how much wayland sucks. Thanks for explaining that this was > supposed to be a feature though. I hadn't known that before.
You most welcome. And like I said - you are not the only one. Others tried and failed. They think its a feature and will tell you "Its by design". Thank you. > > On Thu, Aug 4, 2022 at 3:14 PM Igor Korot <ikoro...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> On Thu, Aug 4, 2022 at 12:37 PM samuel ammonius <sfammon...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > >> > Compositors can prevent apps from doing this if they want to, but there >> > needs to be some built-in way for windows to set their positions. Not >> > having this isn't a feature. >> >> I am not a Wayland developer. >> >> But based on the multiple replies here and there - it is the main >> feature of the Wayland. >> It will never allow the application to set its position/size. >> It will however allow the end-user (a human) to configure Wayland >> (compositor) in any waythey want >> and however stupid they want. >> >> And Wayland developers consider it to be "BIG WAYLAND FEATURE". >> >> So forget about cross-platform applications behaving the same, forget >> about even writing sane application on Linux. >> Wayland (compositor) will be set up by the user (a human) in such a >> way so that the application could become >> completely unusable. >> >> Thank you. >> >> > >> > On Thu, Aug 4, 2022 at 2:57 PM Igor Korot <ikoro...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> On Thu, Aug 4, 2022 at 12:06 PM Simon Ser <cont...@emersion.fr> wrote: >> >> > >> >> > On Thursday, August 4th, 2022 at 19:00, samuel ammonius >> >> > <sfammon...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> > >> >> > > apps such as popups and dialogs are usually supposed to start either >> >> > > at the center of the screen or the center of their parent app >> >> >> >> You are barking at the wrong tree. >> >> >> >> Apparently this is the main feature of the Wayland - do not let the >> >> developers >> >> set up the position of the TLW. >> >> >> >> > >> >> > That's usually what compositors do: center apps by default. But it's to >> >> > the compositor and user preference. >> >> > >> >> > > apps often want to remember where they were when they closed so they >> >> > > can open there again >> >> > >> >> > This is what [1] addresses. >> >> > >> >> > [1]: >> >> > https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/wayland/wayland-protocols/-/merge_requests/18 >> >> >> >> Finally!! ;-) >> >> Now if only Wayland can respect the calls such as >> >> CenterOnScreen()/CenterOnParent() >> >> for the dialog-like windows it would be great. >> >> >> >> Unfortunately it looks like this will never happen and the application >> >> developers will >> >> have to throw away their software, because apparently dialogs can be >> >> put anywhere >> >> on the screen. >> >> >> >> Something like a dialog asking for credentials to login to the DB that >> >> shows up in the >> >> top left corner, because some idiot user set it this way. >> >> >> >> Thank you.
